RE: How to easily defeat any argument for God
August 21, 2019 at 11:43 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2019 at 1:19 pm by Simon Moon.)
(August 21, 2019 at 9:07 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(August 20, 2019 at 11:34 am)Simon Moon Wrote: And this, folks, is just one small example of just how immoral religions are.Your subjective views on morality are irrelevant to people who believe in all-powerful creator of the universe
My morality is not subjective, it is objective, no gods needed. It is based on the objective facts about the universe.
This is not rocket science.
We all live in the same physical universe, subject to the same physical laws, with (more or less) the same physical bodies and minds.
The same things that are detrimental to my well being and ability to thrive, are the same things that are detrimental to yours. It is an objective fact, that cutting off my head is detrimental to my well being, and having your head cut off is detrimental to yours.
From this, we can extrapolate, that (with regards to well being), life is preferable to death, health is preferable to disease, freedom is preferable to slavery, comfort is preferable to torture, not having my stuff stolen is preferable to having it stolen.
Since the above is true for me, I can be certain, it is true for you (and the rest of humanity). From this, it doesn't take much to figure that both of us, would want to live in a society where, no one will kill us, steal our stuff, torture us, etc.
All it takes for an objective secular morality, is a goal (well being), a bit of empathy, and a modicum of rational thinking.
To understand why, let's say, slavery is immoral, all one has to do is ask the f'n slaves if it is good for their well being, and ability to thrive.
You are the one with the subjective morality, because, as Gae Bolga points out above, your morality is based on the subjective whims of your god.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.