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RE: Over the top

August 23, 2019 at 4:15 pm

(August 22, 2019 at 9:59 pm)Belaqua Wrote:
(August 22, 2019 at 9:37 pm)Grandizer Wrote: To say that human beings are tainted with sin by nature but we should love them regardless isn't exactly flattering, and it's reasonable to say that this shows contempt for human nature (which in other words is misanthropic).

Well, I think that acknowledging the fact that people are a mixed bag, and it's in our nature to do things we judge to be morally bad, is not misanthropic.

But if you want to define things that way, I guess we just disagree.

Yep, we're going to have to agree to disagree.

See you in another thread!

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RE: Over the top - by Amarok - August 16, 2019 at 7:02 pm

RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 16, 2019 at 7:07 pm

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RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 17, 2019 at 7:26 am

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 7:33 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 17, 2019 at 7:42 am

RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 17, 2019 at 2:01 pm

RE: Over the top - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 17, 2019 at 8:09 am

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:37 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 18, 2019 at 8:57 am

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 6:51 pm

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RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:00 pm

RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 18, 2019 at 8:19 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:24 pm

RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 19, 2019 at 8:04 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 20, 2019 at 1:14 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 20, 2019 at 9:51 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 18, 2019 at 9:48 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 10:03 pm

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RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2019 at 12:33 am

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