How to easily defeat any argument for God

[GrandizerII]

It's a goal. Goals are always subjective.

They’re not in a teleological view. If human being like watches poses an intrinsic purpose (a telos), like humans beings ought to be good, the way watches ought to tell time. That goal at least in terms of us, is not subjective.

Moral language is built on such teleological assumptions, that most of us when making moral statements are basing it on.

You on the other hand reject such teleological assumptions, and indicate that what you mean by an oughts is some subjective goal of yours, something you wish I subscribe to.

Your entire moral foundation is built on this subjective goal? What you try and sell us an objective is just sexed up subjectivism, subjectivism all the way down.

You just conceal it by trying to sweep the ought under the rug, and try to dishonestly reframe moral statements as descriptive rather than normative.

Watches are designed to tell time. They don't ought to do anything. There's no ought (in the strong moral sense) with watches.

You accuse me of being dishonest, and I accuse you of confusing yourself and trying to confuse others in the process.

I'm willing to bet you implicitly follow a goal that is judged by you as reasonable that drives you to believe you ought not do X. You don't believe you ought not do X simply because X is bad. You ought not do X because X is bad and you don't want to do bad.

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Having said all that, let's say my view of morality makes no sense. Even better, let's go beyond my provisional view and say moral naturalism is false in all aspects, and thus accept that moral "non-naturalism" is true.

What then are you trying to accomplish here in an atheist forum given your intense focus on this one topic of morality? Are you trying to argue that atheism allows for a "transcendental" morality that is objective, and here's arguments X and Y supporting this? If so, great! Vulcan and, I suspect, Belaqua are two among many atheists here who are "non-naturalists" when it comes to morality and yet still manage to be atheists. What's the agenda you're trying to fulfill otherwise if not that?