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Let's be biblically literary
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RE: Let's be biblically literary
(September 4, 2019 at 10:53 am)Acrobat Wrote:
(September 4, 2019 at 10:34 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I mean efficient for allowing for as many people to be saved as possible.

I don’t think anything you’re  imagining here as more efficient for salvation than anything we already have.

Nothing could be more efficient than choosing to reveal The Truth of salvation for all man who has ever lived and ever will live, during one thirty year span of time; a mere fraction of the almost 200,000 years that humans have existed so far, in one small area of land in the Middle East, to one small group of illiterate farmers, and then expecting that somehow this message will successfully and accurately translate to all of his beloved creation equally, across all continents, all languages, and all pre-existing (and subsequent) world religions on into millennia? You can’t be serious.

Quote:Even if we all accepted God existed, as Jesus as his son, that he died and rose again, as sort of historic and scientific facts this wouldn’t mean we’re saved. Because no Christian view salvation as a matter of accepting something equivalent to scientific and historic facts about God.

There is a possible plan B: Make his existence as obvious and indisputable a fact of reality as the fact that when I drop a pen it falls to the floor, to all people equally. That would certainly increase the number of souls saved. It would also eliminate the “need” for Jesus’s blood sacrifice. How can a person choose or reject god if he isn’t convinced that god exists in the first place? Step one for allowing as many folks to be saved as possible is making yourself known, and if god made himself known, faith would not be a requirement. 

If plan B leads to even just one more soul being saved than the plan he actually went through with (the Bible), then god has acted inefficiently, and in logical contradiction to his expressed desire: to allow for as many souls as possible to be saved. So, has god acted irrationally? Or is he not concerned with allowing for as many souls as possible to be saved?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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Messages In This Thread
Let's be biblically literary - by Silver - September 3, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 3, 2019 at 8:55 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Fake Messiah - September 3, 2019 at 10:19 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 4, 2019 at 1:43 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Fake Messiah - September 4, 2019 at 2:04 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 4, 2019 at 2:06 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 4, 2019 at 2:10 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 4, 2019 at 2:16 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 4, 2019 at 3:30 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 4, 2019 at 3:45 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 4, 2019 at 4:08 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Fake Messiah - September 4, 2019 at 3:02 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 3, 2019 at 10:38 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by LadyForCamus - September 4, 2019 at 1:11 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 4, 2019 at 1:23 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 4, 2019 at 7:01 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by LadyForCamus - September 4, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 4, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by LadyForCamus - September 4, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 4, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by LadyForCamus - September 4, 2019 at 10:34 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 4, 2019 at 10:53 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by LadyForCamus - September 4, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 4, 2019 at 3:52 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by LadyForCamus - September 8, 2019 at 10:16 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 9, 2019 at 7:01 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by LadyForCamus - September 13, 2019 at 3:06 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Succubus - September 4, 2019 at 9:29 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Acrobat - September 4, 2019 at 9:36 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Mister Agenda - September 4, 2019 at 9:12 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 4, 2019 at 5:58 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 5, 2019 at 2:56 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by EgoDeath - September 5, 2019 at 3:04 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Vince - September 5, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 5, 2019 at 5:24 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Vince - September 6, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by EgoDeath - September 5, 2019 at 5:53 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Mister Agenda - September 6, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 7, 2019 at 12:49 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by EgoDeath - September 9, 2019 at 1:12 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Belacqua - September 9, 2019 at 2:21 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by EgoDeath - September 9, 2019 at 2:47 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Abaddon_ire - September 9, 2019 at 11:09 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Fake Messiah - September 10, 2019 at 2:37 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Stoneheart - September 20, 2019 at 3:52 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 20, 2019 at 3:58 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Stoneheart - September 20, 2019 at 9:38 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 21, 2019 at 3:00 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Stoneheart - September 21, 2019 at 11:12 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Grandizer - September 21, 2019 at 11:19 pm
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Stoneheart - September 22, 2019 at 12:52 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Nay_Sayer - September 22, 2019 at 12:05 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 22, 2019 at 5:45 am
RE: Let's be biblically literary - by Stoneheart - September 24, 2019 at 7:15 pm

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