Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.

[Captain Scarlet]

What has that got to do with magic or mysticism? If you really don't understand it as much as this, with your other wild statements, [snip].

I'm afraid xtianity has cornered the market on wild statements.

I do believe those things, yet I don't believe in magic or mysticism. Maybe for you that would be what it would take, and I can understand why. But in doing so you fail to address my belief.

.....and the difference between magic and all of those claimed miracles is....?

"My argument is, that to propose that materialism is enough to base your world view upon is deeply flawed. The examples of non material but function based examples proves that"

....how does this.....

I didn't make the claim. [wrt function in the universe]

....tally with this....? What is the definition of function you would like us to consider. What examples of function in the universe point to a divine being?

But you cannot then go on to claim that the conceptual thing (in this case a business) 'exists', it only does so in our conscious mind. Bolded: Precisely the point.

How can you say that a business doesn't exist? You are of course speaking in the language of materialism, which can only account for materially existant things. But this proves, unless you are making what to me is an unsupportable point (that a business cannot exist), that some things can be known to exist through their function.

Talk about missing the point! The bit you didn't bold, was the important bit. You need to develop a theory of concepts to help you discern what you know from what you think you know. You do not seem to use any such epistemology. You are asserting businesses exist, without defining either business or existence. I have given you my definition and my reasoning as to why they do not, in that they are conceptual integrations of tangible and intangible things, and as a concept it has no separate instantiation in the universe. Sure businesses trade, much like money does. As concepts money and businesses work very nicely, but a business is not a real thing, much like money has no real value.

A floating abstraction so it cannot exist? A business cannot exist > businesses do exist > the accusation of fallacy is disproven

See above re missing the point.