RE: Evidence for Believing
September 19, 2019 at 8:01 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2019 at 8:03 pm by possibletarian.)
(September 19, 2019 at 7:23 pm)Lek Wrote:(September 19, 2019 at 6:12 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: But Lek, don't you see that as an issue?
Wouldn't you be skeptical of a product that only had positive reviews from people who worked for the company that made the product?
Do you understand how bias works?
And no, interestingly enough, plenty of people who are already religious have "experiences with god." It's not as if everyone who has had a revelation of some sort was a non-believer, but through their experience became a believer.
What I'm saying is that a religious person is going to have spiritual experiences with God because they commune with God. An atheist isn't likely to have one because he doesn't commune with God. I just was qualifying when I made the statement about some non-believers having these experiences, but it's going to happen more with those who are truly searching.
*Emphasis mine*
Seek and ye shall find.. search for god while he may be found... etc etc I'm sure holy text around the world have similar encouragements in them.
The problem being it's just stuff people wrote to justify why others are not having the same experience because they have emotionally invested themselves in belief, they cannot understand why people don't believe what they believe.
The problem with belief and opening yourself up to ideas, without testing is that it can literally get you to any crackpot idea, from flat -earth, people wearing tin foil hats to stop the government beaming ideas in their head, to religions, to all manner of experiences that are attributed to some other worldly influence.
This is why most people who believe in a spiritual world cannot define it properly other than effectively saying 'you have to believe to believe' which of course can get you to any idea.
Maybe stop trying to justify it by experience, think what you actually know about god, that you can say for sure and with good reason 'this is so' then get back to us, because if you don't have good reason then why do you believe ? Blindly following the excuses that others have written to excuse their lack of proof and calling it somehow inspired won't get you anywhere
@Lek
Can you tell us what god has communicated to you about ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'