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What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
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What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
When people tell me this I reply y saying "what god?" as there are many. I wonder if there is a better argument.

Also what do you say when people say they believe because they "feel God", so it is the "right religion"?
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
(April 29, 2021 at 6:20 pm)Macoleco Wrote: When people tell me this I reply y saying "what god?" as there are many. I wonder if there is a better argument.

Also what do you say when people say they believe because they "feel God", so it is the "right religion"?
1. You can't make yourself believe something you don't really believe. You'll simply wind up trapping yourself in a state of cognitive dissonance.

2.If there is no god you have lived a lie and wasted your devotion on a falsehood and worst still you have possibly led others down that same path.
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
Believing in things you cannot prove leads to other faulty, damaging thinking. You want to always maintain a critical and skeptical mind because it will lead you to act on other things based on the best information you have available. Believing in god robs you of this rational defense.

Believing in a personal god robs you of yourself. If a god that always listens to your internal thoughts, thus robbing you of your sense of privacy in your own head, the one thing that is truly ours and not taken away by others. You'll always feel violated and watched and judged for your thoughts.

If it's a personal god that "speaks" to you through emotions, like a burning busom, or by intuitive thoughts and inspiration, it robs you of the ability to recognize the language of your own mind and being able to recognize and analyze your own emotions. These are crucial things to maintaining emotional and mental health, being able to "hear" yourself from the inside. Attributing those things to a god invading and influencing you erases your ability to take responsibility for your own creativity and emotions.

Believing in a god makes you arrogant and prideful. Because you believe you are deserving of special, divine attention.

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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
(April 29, 2021 at 6:20 pm)Macoleco Wrote: When people tell me this I reply y saying "what god?" as there are many. I wonder if there is a better argument.

Also what do you say when people say they believe because they "feel God", so it is the "right religion"?

If they are not thinking humans but impulsive beasts, then we would have expected no better of them. 

Do they want us to expect better of them or are they content being impulsive beasts in human skins?
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
What do you lose by believing there's a ferocious tiger outside your door?
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
Credibility?
  
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
Besides 10% of my income?  The satisfaction of thinking for myself.
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
Well considering most have an eternal punishment for not picking their faith I'd say a better question is what do I have to gain?

Luckily for me I have the one true faith. RAmen
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
Belief doesn’t simply have an on/off switch. I can no more start believing in God than I can stop believing in France (not for lack of trying).

I’m sure a fix ‘feels right’ to a heroin addict, it doesn’t mean heroin is good for him.

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: What is the best counter argument against "What do you lose by believing?"
I lose nothing, except indulging in silly wish fulfillment nonsense.

Don't tell Santa this is what I really think.
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