RE: Evidence for Believing
September 23, 2019 at 8:39 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2019 at 8:41 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(September 23, 2019 at 8:28 pm)Lek Wrote:(September 23, 2019 at 8:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Yet you and all those billions of people have “revelations” about gods that are entirely mutually exclusive. I just listened to a Christian describe a revelation by god who told him he was not omniscient, or omnipotent, so how do we figure out who’s right? Also, appealing to the number of people who believe something is a fallacy, which has been pointed out to you several times by several people.You can't dismiss it as a fallacy. Testimony of large numbers of people is evidence. According to the Me Too movement, it's enough to destroy people's lives.
As I stated before, people having different descriptions of an indescribable entity isn't strange. Our various ideas and images of God are vehicles that help us go to him. And no, God doesn't have to give us all the same image of him, since any image we have could not describe him.
Or god didn't give us any of the images, billions of us saw some image because our genes are essentially the same, and similar emotional, perceptive and cognitive defects are very widespread, similar to widespread susceptibility to variation of the similar common diseases.
The fact that most people are susceptible to the same diseases might in some very weak way be taken as evidence this disease is good for us. But it is not a very strong evidence, and evidence for the alternative explanation for its prevalence is vastly stronger.
So the fact that most people believe in some god might be evidence that there indeed is some god. But it is extremely low quality evidence of negligible reliability and trivial falsifiability. Vastly stronger evidence for other alternatives makes it essentially unworthy of consideration.
(September 23, 2019 at 8:28 pm)Lek Wrote:(September 23, 2019 at 8:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Yet you and all those billions of people have “revelations” about gods that are entirely mutually exclusive. I just listened to a Christian describe a revelation by god who told him he was not omniscient, or omnipotent, so how do we figure out who’s right? Also, appealing to the number of people who believe something is a fallacy, which has been pointed out to you several times by several people.You can't dismiss it as a fallacy. Testimony of large numbers of people is evidence. According to the Me Too movement, it's enough to destroy people's lives.
As I stated before, people having different descriptions of an indescribable entity isn't strange. Our various ideas and images of God are vehicles that help us go to him. And no, God doesn't have to give us all the same image of him, since any image we have could not describe him.
Why not? Most fallacies are committed by large number of people. Fallacies are most often defects in reasoning that dovetails with common defects in reasoning ability. So the fact that large number of people believe in something is very weak evidence by itself for it being factually true.