RE: Evidence for Believing
September 24, 2019 at 4:59 am
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2019 at 5:07 am by Deesse23.)
(September 23, 2019 at 8:37 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:(September 23, 2019 at 8:28 pm)Lek Wrote: You can't dismiss it as a fallacy. Testimony of large numbers of people is evidence.
"If 10,000 people believe a stupid idea, it is still a stupid idea." (Bertrand Russell)
The issue is: His original claim is wong or dishonest. Over the past 2k yearsall chrstians were killing each other, en masse, over the issue who and what "god" is. Since we are talking about an abrahamic god at the core we would have to include Muslims and Jews as well. The muslim god is fundamentally different from any christian god as well as is the Jewish one.
Catholics beleive in a fundamental different god than protestants. All the evangelicals belive in a fundamental different god themselves. Westboro Baptists think god hates fags. Does Lek think god hates fags? I am not even talking about extinct denominations like Cathars or Arians.
They do no believe in the same god. They believe in fundamentally different ones. But again, Lek is too intellectually lazy. "Some others do the same shit i do" is absolutely sufficient for him, even if it actually isnt the same shit they do beleive in. He said, it, explicitly.
(September 24, 2019 at 4:03 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:(September 24, 2019 at 3:56 am)Deesse23 Wrote: I think this is all we needed to know, and frankly, i dont know why this thread continues for 2 more ages (and more to come): Lek ist intellectually lazy. Lazy.as.fuck. He isnt interested in findng out if his beliefs ate true or not. Its there. He has written it above.
He doesnt analzye everything that happens to him. Not even the most important topic there can be in his life "is there a god, and what does it woant from me?". If he isnt interested in this, what are the chances he is nothered to find out if the next bus really is due in 5 mins? Its probably more enjoyable to put it in the bus drivers hands and let it flow.
He thinks he is gonna waste his time by trying to find out if his beliefs atr true, and thus is gonna waste his entire life tem by believing BS. The saddest part of such an existence is the amount of CO2 genreated to further global warming. Himwastign his time is only his matter, not ours
Case closed.
That’s to put it charitably, condemning him for his lesser misdemeanor but declining to press charges for his felony.
He is intellectually lazy, yes, but at the same time morally vastly greedy for small and questionable perceived private gain with total disregard for possibly large consequences for others and for posterity.
Well, i corrected my view as you were quoting me.
My point was not so much the potential damage to others his false beliefs may cause, but how utterly irrelevant he is going to make his own existence. I was appealing to his ego (since the christian belief in its core is egoiitical and no altruistic, and Leks flavour is a classic stereotype). Not caring for your own (and only) existence, an existence you own to noone else but to yourself, makes your existence the possible biggest waste.
By believing hat he is so special to his imagined creator of everything he achieves exactly the opposite. His existence is going to be maximally irrelevant.....best case!
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse