(September 25, 2019 at 1:09 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(September 19, 2019 at 10:59 pm)Belaqua Wrote: I agree that the fundies around you won't have good evidence. But I do think that authoritative testimony and logical proofs certainly are evidence, depending on the topic. (I suppose people disagree on who is "authoritative" -- that's something else that needs arguing out.)
What exactly is 'authoritative testimony' in the context you are using it?
Please give me an example of something that could be considered 'authoritative testimony'.
Logical proofs (I suppose you mean: Kalam, teleological, ontological, etc?) are only evidence if they are valid and sound. None, I repeat, none of the so called logical proofs for the existence of gods, are both valid and sound. So, there is that...
Agreed. And I do hope Belaqua isn't thinking theologians when he's talking about authoritative testimony, but we'll see what he means.