(September 30, 2019 at 7:48 pm)Inqwizitor Wrote:(September 30, 2019 at 3:34 am)Grandizer Wrote: "God exists" in this context means a maximally great being exists, one that is omnipotent, omniscient, morally perfect, and necessarily so in all possible worlds. God is not simply the ground of all existence here.
https://www.iep.utm.edu/ont-arg/
Visit the link above and scroll down to the bit about Platinga and his MOA.
OK so you would agree then that omniscience and omnipotence are logically incompatible properties?
I do think so, yeah. But that's besides the point anyway. The person making the argument still has the burden to show that such a being is logically possible in the first place. I refer you back to my math analogy.
And if the person making the argument responds back with how do you prove such a thing, well, tough luck, buddy ... you're the one trying to make a supposedly compelling argument here.
Quote:The self-contradiction may be inherent and assumed by dividing an unlimited being into these properties, which is then delimiting, and not, unlimited. Unlimited being is unlimited being, simply, no parts, no separation into knowledge, power or goodness. Pure act, as Aristotle put it (I think). On second glance I might be conflating Malcolm and Plantinga.
Yeah is what they tend to say ... until it becomes about Jesus and the Trinity.