(September 30, 2019 at 3:34 am)Grandizer Wrote:(September 30, 2019 at 2:29 am)Inqwizitor Wrote: What is it proving, exactly? What does "God exists" even mean, really (devoid of faith)? That seems like saying, "existence exists." If "God" is simply the absolute ontological ground of all logically possible existence. In that case, that might be the only thing we can really know.
"God exists" in this context means a maximally great being exists, one that is omnipotent, omniscient, morally perfect, and necessarily so in all possible worlds. God is not simply the ground of all existence here.
https://www.iep.utm.edu/ont-arg/
Visit the link above and scroll down to the bit about Platinga and his MOA.
What makes those things greatest? If say, I value malevolence, I may come up with an entirely different set of characteristics. What are these criteria other than an expression of our own desires?