RE: Evidence for Believing
October 2, 2019 at 7:09 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2019 at 7:17 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(October 2, 2019 at 6:45 pm)Inqwizitor Wrote:(October 2, 2019 at 6:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: But once again, with the data provided to me by theists, and the lack of confirmed, verifiable miracles or supernatural causes to examine, isn't my disbelief in a god rationally based?
Even if, and that's a big if, miracles and supernatural causes could be confirmed. That still would not mean a god is responsible. You can't get to 'therefore god exists', from, 'something supernatural occured.
Of course disbelief and skepticism can be rational. So can faith and belief. I don't think atheists are all irrational, but I contend that neither am I.
The existence of a supernatural cause is distinguishable from no supernatural cause, because of the difference between an absolutely uniform, or relatively uniform, causal chain of natural events. I don't understand what you mean by "a god"' if you don't mean a supernatural cause.
No, belief can be rational, faith by definition is belief that is asserted without rational basis and without admission of its dubiousness because it lacks rational basis.
The existence of a supernatural cause is distinguishable from no supernatural cause solely by the observer's eagerness to become satisfied with accepting some faux explanation that really provides no understanding and is useless for any purpose whatsoever than acquiring a smug sense idiot complacency.
If he is easily satistfied with some faux explanation that really provides no understanding and is useless for any purpose whatsoever other than acquiring a smug sense idiot complacency, than he would call his faux explanation "supernatural". He would exhibit his complacency by letting all his inquiry stop at "supernatural" and going no further.
If he wants an explanation which provides any theoretical portal to further defining why and how, then that explanation would not even occur to him as being "supernatural".
(October 2, 2019 at 4:14 pm)Lek Wrote:(October 2, 2019 at 12:51 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Your god seems pretty weak, vague an inseparable from nothingness. I, however, can describe my God (and let's be honest the real one) in full robust language and can even give you illustrations of Its glory from artists who've seen it around the world and through time.
RAmen.
You'll never win me as a convert, but if the FSM is what connects you to God then I say go for it. It all boils down to you and God.
Well, at least FSM is good for boiling.
Yours, not so much.