(October 2, 2019 at 8:53 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: No one denies there can be truth which you can not find. One merely denies you found the truths which you can not find.Right, but that's back to the possibility of revelation.
Quote:A means of truth finding that is not clearly defined and testable for its efficacy is the indistinguishable from bullshit and therefore not by any worthy definition any means of truth finding.Bullshit can contradict known facts or be illogical, and implies something insincere or contrived.
A revealed truth is a clearly defined proposition that can be tested with methods of truth finding, whether it contradicts known facts. Demanding a test for efficacy of a truth is declaring that all truth is a directly observable fact.
Quote:So you are saying the highest form of overarching truth is any form of bullshit so long as someone really wants that bullshit to be true.No, I'm saying there is truth that does not contradict any of our logical or empirical means of truth finding but is not attainable by those means.