(October 2, 2019 at 6:45 pm)Inqwizitor Wrote:(October 2, 2019 at 6:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: But once again, with the data provided to me by theists, and the lack of confirmed, verifiable miracles or supernatural causes to examine, isn't my disbelief in a god rationally based?
Even if, and that's a big if, miracles and supernatural causes could be confirmed. That still would not mean a god is responsible. You can't get to 'therefore god exists', from, 'something supernatural occured.
Of course disbelief and skepticism can be rational. So can faith and belief. I don't think atheists are all irrational, but I contend that neither am I.
If you are defining faith in the Hebrews 11:1 way, then faith is irrational by definition. If you are defining it as belief without demonstrable evidence, then it is irrational.
Believing without demonstrable and falsifiable evidence, and valid and sound logic, is irrational.
Quote:The existence of a supernatural cause is distinguishable from no supernatural cause, because of the difference between an absolutely uniform, or relatively uniform, causal chain of natural events. I don't understand what you mean by "a god"' if you don't mean a supernatural cause.
Name one confirmable, evidential, demonstrable supernatural event.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.