(October 2, 2019 at 5:15 pm)Lek Wrote:(October 2, 2019 at 2:41 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Please let me know the specific steps I could take, that would get me to the same understanding of this god you claim exists, and has the attributes you claim it has.
I've told you a number of times already. Read my lips! There is no scientific method that I know of to finding God. The way I see it is to have a true desire to know God and be willing accept what he gives to you. Go to him in prayer and ask for him to reveal himself to you. While being open to God's guidance, study religions and spiritual philosophies and continue to ask for God's guidance. I didn't particularly want to be connected to the spiritual philosophy I now have, so I tried to make myself believe something else. Invariably, I came back to it though. This seems to be where God wants me to be now. It may not happen immediately, but slowly over time. Don't expect some tremendous experience to happen.
I may come to accept certain beliefs based on my images of God, which are often cultural, to try to explain a being who is indescribable. These are different than most others' images, but I don't think God cares about that as long as we know him. All these images and ideas are not him.
Sorry, maybe I wasn't as clear as I thought I was being.
I wasn't asking for a scientific method for finding god. I was asking for any method.
For example, if I wanted to become a good chess player (1800 rating), I could poll a bunch of chess masters for the best method. They would answer with things like: read the following books, practice against the following computer programs, enter beginner tournaments, play N number of hours per week, etc.
All I am asking is some kind of equivalent method.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.