Evidence for Believing

[possibletarian]

Prayer by necessity is for what you personally want

Right. But that doesn't mean you expect God or Santa Claus to hand it over.

Not long ago, the Pope said, "You pray for the hungry. Then you feed them. That's how prayer works." 

Kierkegaard, though not Catholic, would agree with this, as would many modern Christians. It doesn't involve supernatural presents.

I think the point is that beyond some placebo effect prayer is ineffective, why not simply feed the poor for instance ? How does prayer add to that if people should not expect help from ?

I'm not sure it even says pray for the hungry in the bible, but in fact speaks out against it 'faith without actions' simply get it done is the motto.

The bible is clear, we pray for our daily bread.. (amongst other things) if god a god is going to rely on people around you to fulfil a prayer that the same god instructed you to make, in the full knowledge they would/could not, if such a god exists, what does it say ?

If the same god inspires people to pray for healing for the sick amongst you, and yet does nothing supernatural for that healing, then why not simply instruct people to call for a physician, at least that way we wouldn't have the tragedies we hear about.

If it looks and acts like a man made faith.......


Out on interest do you pray, if so to which god (or gods), what do you pray for, and why ?