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Evidence for Believing
RE: Evidence for Believing
(October 10, 2019 at 11:16 pm)Inqwizitor Wrote:
(October 10, 2019 at 10:11 pm)Grandizer Wrote: It's still very weak evidence because it's not been established that the healing was because of a miracle rather than spontaneous healing for which we have potential physiological explanations. And we do need to set up something like an experiment (or similar) to establish whether miracles can happen (by observing that miracle healings significantly more frequently occur right after praying to God as opposed to not, for example ... even though we would still need to go beyond that as well to make sure). If miracles only happen very selectively, then we can't say we have conclusive evidence.

And I know you're Catholic, but many of us don't take "church approval" seriously around here. It means nothing to us.
If it was a testable, verifiable phenomenon that spontaneous remission occurred significantly more frequently during or as a result of prayer, we should look at some powerful psychosomatic (natural) cause, like perhaps another order of magnitude in the placebo effect. If something is observably repeatable within the order of empirical phenomena such that you can form an inductive conclusion from predictable data, that makes it less likely to be a miracle, not more likely.

Yes, it's not an "end-all, be-all" procedure but such observations could still put us on a good starting point for seriously considering the plausibility of miracles. We would have to go beyond just this basic experiment to establish the reality of miracles of course (say different controls, e.g. "praying to rocks").

But more importantly, this seems a concession on your part of the difficulty of attaining conclusive evidence for miracles.

ETA: Nevertheless, I disagree that repeatability of observations means they can't [likely] be supernatural/divine.
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Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2019 at 6:41 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Prycejosh1987 - November 13, 2019 at 4:28 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by GUBU - November 14, 2019 at 2:56 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - November 14, 2019 at 2:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Valkyrie - November 14, 2019 at 3:22 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by chimp3 - September 18, 2019 at 6:51 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 18, 2019 at 6:54 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2019 at 6:57 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by chimp3 - September 18, 2019 at 7:01 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Valkyrie - September 18, 2019 at 7:06 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 18, 2019 at 7:13 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by chimp3 - September 18, 2019 at 7:19 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by mordant - September 18, 2019 at 7:31 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Aegon - September 18, 2019 at 7:43 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 18, 2019 at 8:17 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 18, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Valkyrie - September 18, 2019 at 7:42 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2019 at 7:59 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - September 18, 2019 at 8:16 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2019 at 8:23 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 18, 2019 at 8:32 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 19, 2019 at 11:29 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2019 at 8:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - September 18, 2019 at 8:41 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 18, 2019 at 10:30 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 19, 2019 at 2:47 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - September 19, 2019 at 8:24 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by zebo-the-fat - September 19, 2019 at 9:24 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 19, 2019 at 12:20 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - September 19, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 19, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LastPoet - September 19, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by zebo-the-fat - September 19, 2019 at 2:59 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 19, 2019 at 9:42 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - September 19, 2019 at 6:57 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 19, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 19, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - September 19, 2019 at 7:04 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by zebo-the-fat - September 19, 2019 at 8:21 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 8:27 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - September 19, 2019 at 8:31 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - September 19, 2019 at 9:46 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2019 at 9:50 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 19, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 19, 2019 at 2:06 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - September 19, 2019 at 9:52 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 10:12 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 19, 2019 at 12:46 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - September 19, 2019 at 1:00 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 1:46 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by GUBU - September 19, 2019 at 2:12 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Objectivist - September 19, 2019 at 2:25 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 2:33 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 19, 2019 at 3:05 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 19, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - September 19, 2019 at 3:25 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - September 20, 2019 at 2:18 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Objectivist - September 19, 2019 at 3:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 19, 2019 at 4:34 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 19, 2019 at 5:00 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 19, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - September 19, 2019 at 8:43 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 3:09 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by no one - September 19, 2019 at 3:45 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 19, 2019 at 6:09 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 19, 2019 at 6:12 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 19, 2019 at 7:23 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 19, 2019 at 7:38 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - September 19, 2019 at 8:01 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - September 19, 2019 at 8:45 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 20, 2019 at 12:10 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - September 21, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 21, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - September 21, 2019 at 9:53 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Rahn127 - September 19, 2019 at 8:17 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2019 at 8:43 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 20, 2019 at 12:44 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Mister Agenda - September 20, 2019 at 9:49 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 20, 2019 at 11:00 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 21, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 21, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - September 21, 2019 at 3:14 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 21, 2019 at 3:18 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 21, 2019 at 3:43 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 22, 2019 at 12:32 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 22, 2019 at 1:03 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 22, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - September 22, 2019 at 8:29 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by zebo-the-fat - September 21, 2019 at 5:29 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - September 21, 2019 at 5:35 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 21, 2019 at 10:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - September 21, 2019 at 11:09 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 21, 2019 at 11:22 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - September 22, 2019 at 12:46 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 22, 2019 at 1:06 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 22, 2019 at 1:12 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LastPoet - September 22, 2019 at 4:54 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 22, 2019 at 5:13 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 22, 2019 at 11:41 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - September 22, 2019 at 5:40 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - September 22, 2019 at 7:32 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by zebo-the-fat - September 22, 2019 at 4:03 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 22, 2019 at 11:54 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 22, 2019 at 12:55 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 22, 2019 at 5:17 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 22, 2019 at 9:12 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by TaraJo - September 22, 2019 at 8:44 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - September 22, 2019 at 8:48 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by TaraJo - September 22, 2019 at 9:09 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - September 22, 2019 at 9:11 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by TaraJo - September 22, 2019 at 9:16 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - September 22, 2019 at 9:20 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 22, 2019 at 10:42 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - September 22, 2019 at 10:50 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 23, 2019 at 7:43 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 23, 2019 at 12:34 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 23, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 23, 2019 at 3:16 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 23, 2019 at 4:49 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Abaddon_ire - September 23, 2019 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 24, 2019 at 3:56 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2019 at 4:03 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 24, 2019 at 12:45 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 24, 2019 at 4:23 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Valkyrie - September 22, 2019 at 10:02 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - September 22, 2019 at 10:24 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Valkyrie - September 22, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - September 22, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Rahn127 - September 23, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 23, 2019 at 7:18 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 23, 2019 at 7:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 23, 2019 at 7:31 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 23, 2019 at 8:03 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 23, 2019 at 8:28 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 23, 2019 at 8:30 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 23, 2019 at 8:50 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by mordant - September 23, 2019 at 8:34 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - September 23, 2019 at 8:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - September 24, 2019 at 4:59 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 23, 2019 at 8:39 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 24, 2019 at 10:07 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 4:31 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 24, 2019 at 4:33 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2019 at 5:07 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 5:38 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2019 at 5:55 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Abaddon_ire - September 24, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 24, 2019 at 8:38 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 24, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LadyForCamus - September 24, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2019 at 2:57 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by mordant - September 24, 2019 at 4:04 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - September 24, 2019 at 4:11 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 23, 2019 at 8:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by mordant - September 23, 2019 at 8:27 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - September 23, 2019 at 8:56 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - September 23, 2019 at 8:56 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by mordant - September 23, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 23, 2019 at 9:46 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by EgoDeath - September 24, 2019 at 12:17 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 7:19 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2019 at 7:24 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2019 at 7:49 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 7:57 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 8:17 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2019 at 9:11 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - September 24, 2019 at 9:21 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2019 at 7:56 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - September 24, 2019 at 8:51 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - September 25, 2019 at 11:03 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - September 30, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 30, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - October 1, 2019 at 4:50 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 1, 2019 at 5:30 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - October 2, 2019 at 12:29 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - October 2, 2019 at 12:51 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - October 2, 2019 at 4:14 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - October 2, 2019 at 8:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 2, 2019 at 2:41 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - October 2, 2019 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 5:20 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 3, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 2:46 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - October 2, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 1, 2019 at 6:20 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 1, 2019 at 6:43 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - October 2, 2019 at 9:39 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 2, 2019 at 10:58 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Ricardo - September 30, 2019 at 9:48 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2019 at 1:43 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Rahn127 - September 30, 2019 at 1:29 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 30, 2019 at 3:16 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2019 at 7:01 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - September 30, 2019 at 9:30 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - October 1, 2019 at 2:12 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Succubus - October 1, 2019 at 9:51 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 1, 2019 at 7:28 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 1, 2019 at 8:03 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 1, 2019 at 8:20 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 1, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 1, 2019 at 8:54 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 1, 2019 at 9:27 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 12:51 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 4:33 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 5:12 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 5:37 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - October 3, 2019 at 3:07 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 2, 2019 at 11:26 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 4:11 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 2, 2019 at 5:29 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 6:11 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 2, 2019 at 6:22 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 6:45 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 7:09 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 8:39 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 9:09 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 9:17 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 9:41 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 3, 2019 at 11:25 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Succubus - October 2, 2019 at 6:07 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2019 at 3:22 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - September 30, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - September 30, 2019 at 5:52 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - September 30, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by snowtracks - October 1, 2019 at 2:13 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 1, 2019 at 3:08 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Abaddon_ire - October 1, 2019 at 3:47 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - October 1, 2019 at 6:49 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 1, 2019 at 11:22 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 1, 2019 at 9:59 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - October 1, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - October 1, 2019 at 7:48 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 1, 2019 at 7:51 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - October 1, 2019 at 8:07 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 1, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Nay_Sayer - October 1, 2019 at 8:53 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 1:05 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Ricardo - October 2, 2019 at 3:34 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 3:46 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 2, 2019 at 4:28 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 4:23 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 5:42 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 6:25 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 6:29 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 7:35 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 8:16 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 8:52 pm
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 9:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 9:27 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 9:46 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2019 at 10:45 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2019 at 9:44 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 9:50 pm
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 2, 2019 at 11:51 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 3, 2019 at 12:30 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2019 at 6:43 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 3, 2019 at 10:59 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Cod - October 4, 2019 at 4:20 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 4, 2019 at 7:10 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Cod - October 4, 2019 at 7:15 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 4, 2019 at 7:59 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LastPoet - October 4, 2019 at 8:04 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - October 4, 2019 at 10:13 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 4, 2019 at 2:25 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 4, 2019 at 3:40 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 4, 2019 at 7:02 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - October 4, 2019 at 10:33 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 10, 2019 at 8:57 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 10, 2019 at 8:58 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 4, 2019 at 11:37 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 4, 2019 at 2:20 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Mister Agenda - October 3, 2019 at 9:02 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 3, 2019 at 9:05 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2019 at 11:22 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - October 3, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 3, 2019 at 6:29 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - October 3, 2019 at 6:33 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 3, 2019 at 7:13 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Lek - October 3, 2019 at 7:34 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - October 3, 2019 at 10:44 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 3, 2019 at 7:19 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Cod - October 4, 2019 at 8:08 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Mister Agenda - October 4, 2019 at 9:04 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LastPoet - October 4, 2019 at 12:18 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 4, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by LastPoet - October 4, 2019 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Macoleco - October 4, 2019 at 7:34 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 7, 2019 at 2:27 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - October 7, 2019 at 8:12 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 7, 2019 at 11:22 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 7, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 7, 2019 at 1:12 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 7, 2019 at 2:42 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Rahn127 - October 7, 2019 at 6:23 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - October 7, 2019 at 6:49 pm
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - October 7, 2019 at 8:50 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 7, 2019 at 8:52 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - October 7, 2019 at 10:50 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - October 8, 2019 at 1:11 am
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - October 8, 2019 at 2:24 am
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Foxaèr - October 8, 2019 at 2:50 am
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 8, 2019 at 12:16 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Anomalocaris - October 7, 2019 at 8:09 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - October 8, 2019 at 3:09 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Cod - October 7, 2019 at 6:45 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Succubus - October 7, 2019 at 10:42 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Deesse23 - October 7, 2019 at 11:35 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 8, 2019 at 1:52 am
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 10, 2019 at 10:11 pm
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RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 10, 2019 at 11:45 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Inqwizitor - October 11, 2019 at 12:01 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 11, 2019 at 1:26 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by possibletarian - October 11, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 11, 2019 at 1:37 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - October 11, 2019 at 2:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Simon Moon - October 12, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - October 13, 2019 at 5:32 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Fake Messiah - October 13, 2019 at 5:48 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 11, 2019 at 4:22 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by GGG - October 27, 2019 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - October 27, 2019 at 6:00 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Abaddon_ire - October 27, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Gwaithmir - October 28, 2019 at 8:00 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by desire4hitchasia - November 12, 2019 at 3:48 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - November 12, 2019 at 4:06 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by desire4hitchasia - November 12, 2019 at 4:16 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Belacqua - November 12, 2019 at 4:19 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2019 at 5:44 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 14, 2019 at 8:12 am
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2019 at 2:40 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by downbeatplumb - November 14, 2019 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 14, 2019 at 4:05 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2019 at 4:26 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 14, 2019 at 5:16 pm
RE: Evidence for Believing - by Grandizer - November 14, 2019 at 5:39 pm

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