(October 14, 2019 at 12:41 am)Acrobat Wrote:(October 14, 2019 at 12:28 am)Grandizer Wrote: Ok, you can put our consciousness aside, no problem. Biological processes in our bodies lead to the act of assigning meaning and value. Assigning itself would be explicable in terms of the physical, in accordance with how our brains are wired to perceive.
Our biological processes are all contingent process. Determinism doesn’t begin at our biology. External deterministic factors act on our biology, causing it to recognize certain values and meanings.
Our biology isn’t the captain here either, just another passenger on the ship. P4 is unavoidable, in my view.
The disagreement isn't with P4 but with P5 itself, but maybe I made the mistake of focusing on the wrong part of that premise. Here's how you worded P5:
Quote:P5- Since reality possess values and meanings, that are ultimately rooted in the first cause, reality is an intentional work, authored designed, a novel.
Maybe I should instead ask you how "reality is an intentional work" follows logically from "reality possesses values and meanings, ultimately rooted in first cause". Reality, and the various objects within it, may possess values and meanings, but if these values and meanings are assigned post hoc, then it does not necessarily follow that reality itself must have been authored/designed.
