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Intelligent (?) Design
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Intelligent (?) Design
Although the fans of the angry desert god hate to admit it most (if not all) cultures had creation myths.  Doubtless they think theirs are superior but when you consider them side by side all of this happy horseshit is pretty much the same.  This is kind of long but abrahamic horseshit is really no different, it is merely more familiar.

Ancient Greece:
Quote: Out of the primordial chaos came the earliest divinities, including Gaia (mother earth). Gaia created Uranus, the sky, to cover herself. They spawned a bizarre menagerie of gods and monsters, including the Hecatonchires, monsters with 50 heads and a hundred hands, and the Cyclopes, the "wheel-eyed," later forgers of Zeus's thunderbolts. Next came the gods known as the Titans, 6 sons and 6 daughters. Uranus, despising his monstrous children, imprisoned them in Tartarus, the earth's bowels. Enraged, Gaia made an enormous sickle and gave it to her youngest son, Cronus, with instructions. When next Uranus appeared to copulate with Gaia, Cronus sprang out and hacked off his father's genitals! Where Uranus's blood and naughty bits fell, there sprang forth more monsters, the Giants and Furies. From the sea foam churned up by the the holy testicles came the goddess Aphrodite. Later, Cronus fathered the next generation of gods, Zeus and the Olympians.
Ancient Hindu:
Quote:, the Rig Veda, tells of a gigantic being, Purusha, possessing a thousand heads, eyes, and feet. He enveloped the earth, extending beyond it by the space of ten fingers. When the gods sacrificed Purusha, his body produced clarified butter, which engendered the birds and animals. His body parts transformed into the world's elements, and the gods Agni, Vayu, and Indra. Also, the four castes of Hindu society were created from his body: the priests, warriors, general populace, and the servants. Historically later, the trinity of Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the preserver), and Shiva (the destroyer) gained prominence. Brahma appears in a lotus sprouting from the navel of the sleeping Vishnu. Brahma creates the universe, which lasts for one of his days, or 4.32 billion years. Then Shiva destroys the universe and the cycle restarts.
Japan:
Quote:The gods created two divine siblings, brother Izanagi and sister Izanami, who stood upon a floating bridge above the primordial ocean. Using the jeweled spear of the gods, they churned up the first island, Onogoro. Upon the island, Izanagi and Izanami married, and gave forth progeny that were malformed. The gods blamed it upon a breach of protocol. During the marriage ritual, Izanami, the woman, had spoken first. Correctly reprising their marriage ritual, the two coupled and produced the islands of Japan and more deities. However, in birthing Kagutsuchi-no-Kami, the fire god, Izanami died. Traumatized, Izanagi followed her to Yomi, the land of the dead. Izanami, having eaten the food of Yomi, could not return. When Izanagi suddenly saw Izanami's decomposing body, he was terrified and fled. Izanami, enraged, pursued him, accompanied by hideous women. Izanagi hurled personal items at them, which transformed into diversions. Escaping the cavern entrance of Yomi, he blocked it with a boulder, thus permanently separating life from death.
China:
Quote:A cosmic egg floated within the timeless void, containing the opposing forces of yin and yang. After eons of incubation, the first being, Pan-gu emerged. The heavy parts (yin) of the egg drifted downwards, forming the earth. The lighter parts (yang) rose to form the sky. Pan-gu, fearing the parts might re-form, stood upon the earth and held up the sky. He grew 10 feet per day for 18,000 years, until the sky was 30,000 miles high. His work completed, he died. His parts transformed into elements of the universe, whether animals, weather phenomena, or celestial bodies. Some say the fleas on him became humans, but there is another explanation. The goddess Nuwa was lonely, so she fashioned men out of mud from the Yellow River. These first humans delighted her, but took long to make, so she flung muddy droplets over the earth, each one becoming a new person. These hastily-made people became the commoners, with the earlier ones being the nobles the first example of mass-production!
Mexico Aztec:
Quote:The earth mother of the Aztecs, Coatlicue ("skirt of snakes,") is depicted in a fearsome way, wearing a necklace of human hearts and hands, and a skirt of snakes as her name suggests. The story goes that Coatlicue was impregnated by an obsidian knife and gave birth to Coyolxauhqui, goddess of the moon, and to 400 sons, who became the stars of the southern sky. Later, a ball of feathers fell from the sky which, upon Coatlicue finding it and placing it in her waistband, caused her to become pregnant again. Coyolxauhqui and her brothers turned against their mother, whose unusual pregnancy shocked and outraged them, the origin being unknown. However, the child inside Coatlique, Huitzilopochtli, the god of war and the sun god, sprang from his mother's womb, fully-grown and armored (talk about a C-section!). He attacked Coyolxauhqui, killing her with the aid of a fire serpent. Cutting off her head, he flung it into the sky, where it became the moon.
Ancient Egypt:
Quote:All begin with the swirling, chaotic waters of Nu (or Nun). Atum willed himself into being, and then created a hill, otherwise there'd be no place for him to stand. Atum was genderless and possessed an all-seeing eye. He/she spat out a son, Shu, god of the air. Atum then vomited up a daughter, Tefnut, goddess of moisture. These two were charged with the task of creating order out of chaos. Shu and Tefnut generated Geb, the earth, and Nut, the sky. First they were entwined, but Geb lifted Nut above him. Gradually the world's order formed, but Shu and Tefnut became lost in the remaining darkness. Atum removed his/her all-seeing eye and sent it in search of them. (Just how all-seeing it was, and what did Atum do without, remains a mystery.) When Shu and Tefnut returned, thanks to the eye, Atum wept with joy. Where the tears struck the earth, men sprang up.
Babylonia:
Quote:the Enuma Elish, begins with the gods of water, Apsu (fresh), and Tiamat (salt), spawning several generations of gods, leading to Ea and his many brothers. However, these younger gods made so much noise that Apsu and Tiamat could not sleep . Apsu plotted to kill them, but Ea killed him first. Tiamat vowed revenge and created many monsters, including the Mad Dog and Scorpion Man. Ea and the goddess Damkina created Marduk, a giant god with four eyes and four ears, as their protector. In tangling with Tiamat, Marduk, bearing the winds as weapons, hurled an evil wind down her gullet, incapacitating her, and then killed her with a single arrow to her heart. He then split her body in half and used it to create the heavens and the earth. Later he created man to do the drudge work that the gods refused to do, like farming
Persia Zoroastrian:
Quote:The great mountain, Alburz, grew for 800 years until it touched the sky. From that point, rain fell, forming the Vourukasha sea and two great rivers. The first animal, the white bull, lived on the bank of the river Veh Rod. However, the evil spirit, Angra Mainyu, killed it. Its seed was carried to the moon and purified, creating many animals and plants. Across the river lived the first man, Gayomard, bright as the sun. Angra Mainyu also killed him. Ouch! The sun purified his seed for forty years, which then sprouted a rhubarb plant. This plant grew into Mashya and Mashyanag, the first mortals. Instead of killing them, Angra Mainyu deceived them into worshipping him. After 50 years they bore twins, but they ate the twins, owing to their sin. After a very long time, two more twins were born, and from them came all humans.
Norse:
Quote:According to Norse lore, before there was Earth (Midgard), there was Muspell, a fiery land guarded by the fire sword-wielding Surt; Ginnungagap, a great void, and Niflheim, a frozen ice-covered land. When the cold of Niflheim touched the fires of Muspell, the giant Ymir and a behemothic cow, Auïhumla, emerged from the thaw. Then, the cow licked the god Bor and his wife into being. The couple gave birth to Buri, who fathered three sons, Odin, Vili, and Vï. The sons rose up and killed Ymir and from his corpse created from his flesh, the Earth; the mountains from his bones, trees with his hair and rivers, and the seas and lakes with his blood. Within Ymir's hollowed-out skull, the gods created the starry heavens.
Bible Bullshit:
Quote:God says, "Let there be light," and light appears. In six days, he creates the sky, the land, plants, the sun and moon, animals, and all creatures, including humans. To all he says, "Be fruitful and multiply," which they do. On the seventh day God rests, contemplates his handiwork, and gives himself a good evaluation. In the second story, God creates the first man, Adam, from the earth. He makes a garden in Eden for Adam, but forbids him to eat fruit from the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil." Adam names the animals but remains lonely. God anesthetizes Adam and makes one of his ribs into the first woman, Eve. A talking serpent persuades her to eat the forbidden fruit, and she convinces Adam to do likewise. When God finds out, he drives them from the garden and makes man mortal.
 
 Ramen.
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#2
RE: Intelligent (?) Design
That's not the same Greek mythology creation story I learned in elementary school. All that stuff before Cronos became big daddy, we never heard a peep about. But then given the nature of it, and being only in sixth grade at the time, I'm not surprised.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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RE: Intelligent (?) Design
I am not sure what intelligent design has to do with creation stories.

Intelligent design has been adopted by the Catholic Church to help resolve the theory of evolution and their dogma. I think that the church realized that they had a lot of educated people on their hands who would not believe the biblical creation myth and so they had to change their dogma to fit with modern reality else they loose lots of members and money.

It looks like the phrase is credited with a text book printed around 1989 "Of Pandas and People". I am a product of a catholic education, while i cannot remember if my teachers used the term "Intelligent Design"

I am certain that we were taught the theory of evolution (as gods plan of course) in grade school, 4th - 5th grade. I know the term was used in high school biology/science class 9th-10th grade.
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RE: Intelligent (?) Design
(August 18, 2017 at 9:25 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: I am not sure what intelligent design has to do with creation stories.

Intelligent design has been adopted by the Catholic Church to help resolve the theory of evolution and their dogma.  I think that the church realized that they had a lot of educated people on their hands who would not believe the biblical creation myth and so they had to change their dogma to fit with modern reality else they loose lots of members and money.

It looks like the phrase is credited with a text book printed around 1989 "Of Pandas and People".  I am a product of a catholic education, while i cannot remember if my teachers used the term "Intelligent Design"

I am certain that we were taught the theory of evolution (as gods plan of course) in grade school, 4th - 5th grade.  I know the term was used in high school biology/science class 9th-10th grade.

Intelligent, as in the product of a sentient, thinking agent; Not actually pertaining to the degree of intelligence, surely. Otherwise why are people by and large so stupid? Not a very intelligent designer if we're that flawed.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#5
RE: Intelligent (?) Design
Basically the creation stories say "don't have kids".
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#6
RE: Intelligent (?) Design
Wise words.

"Intelligent Design" in the sense that all religitards claim some sort of intelligence behind the plan.  They seem to involve magic more than intelligence but what can you expect from religitards?
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#7
RE: Intelligent (?) Design
OK Min. Don't leave us hanging! Which one is the real one! Dunno
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#8
RE: Intelligent (?) Design
Lewis Black on creationism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_utZaJUL0



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#9
RE: Intelligent (?) Design
"Intelligent Design" but they never explain where that intelligence came from, who designed it? If everything over a certain level of complexity needs to be designed then someone or something must have designed the designer, and something designed the designers designer...
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

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#10
RE: Intelligent (?) Design
Intelligent Design is creationism in a stolen lab coat. Its advocates have openly stated the 'designer' is the god of the bible.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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