(October 17, 2011 at 1:44 am)Phaedra Wrote: I have no fucking idea what you are talking about. I am well-aware that Islam is not a religion for poor people in the Middle East. I have no problem with you being a Muslim, and I respect your right to follow whichever religion you choose. This isn't about Islam-bashing. I simply informing you know that one can appreciate and love nature and see it's patterns without believing in a deity. I am also letting you know that I am not convinced by your argument that patterns in nature prove god's existence. That's all.
Like I said, an hour you try to bring up the evolution thing for this debate. And it back-fired. It sounds to me you haven't really read anything substantial about the religion. You probably listen to media and/or second-hand sources to make up your conclusions. You'll learn more if you truly put the effort and read about it first hand.
Sure you can enjoy nature without believing in God, but you can enjoy it a lot more if you understand what is behind it all.