(November 23, 2019 at 11:14 pm)Shell B Wrote:(November 23, 2019 at 6:50 pm)Tom Fearnley Wrote: 1) If we were all vegan there would be no starving people?
2) Animals killed on the farm feel pain when killed (being electrocuted then bolted in the head would hurt a lot. Sometimes the machine goes wrong and the bolt doesn't kill the animal "quickly", causing even more suffering to the animal.)
3) A meat eater diet damages the environment more so than a vegan one.
1. Is that a question, because you phrased it as a statement.
2. I said killed quickly, not tormented.
3. You'd have to have evidence of that claim.
Listen, you asked a question. I answered it. If this is just a guise to try to convert me to your way of thinking, I'm going to eat a burger in protest. I can't stand that shit. I have access to the same information you have. I came to a different, yummy, conclusion.
1) It's a question.
2) Why do you think being electrocuted and bolted in the head is a "quick" death? Sounds very painful to me. Also sometimes the machinery goes wrong and it takes them even longer to die.
3) There is evidence I thought: https://www.livekindly.co/this-is-why-a-...vironment/ Hmm they do say "could help..."
What's wrong with trying to convert someone to your way of thinking?