(October 18, 2011 at 8:36 pm)Pendragon Wrote: Are you sure?
Yes.
(October 18, 2011 at 8:36 pm)Pendragon Wrote: Most of quantum mechanics relates the concept that observation changes things. If so, how does math exist in the "observed" world?,
Or is it in the observer? Both?
Read this carefully, even if it is again: http://quantumenigma.com/wp-content/uplo...riment.pdf
Yes I have studied that a multitude of times, but thanks for a PDF copy.
Of course observation changes things. One cannot study apes in the wild. The presence of the observer will always create a situation different than if they were not there.
Same thing in physics. Observation creates an interaction which changes all things. That is the major flaw with Laplace's Demon or a god even. There are many things beyond our understanding and comprehension, but in the end, it all still works. Were there a failure in the underlying math of the universe, things would go horribly wrong and we would not be here discussing it at all.
We are still discovering the underlying 'math' of the universe. Is what we have discovered so far precise? Of course not. Is it accurate? Maybe, but then there are contradictions that suggest otherwise. We have yet to develop a significant mathematics/physics history to look back and say, "How foolish they were". In the far future, when more is known, they may look at us the same way we look at the Babylonians.
Today we are away from religious dogma enough in the scientific circles that we can discover, experiment, question and establish theories with little intervention. Of course new theories that slap the face of 'conventional wisdom' still present issues.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
