RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
December 19, 2019 at 1:19 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2019 at 1:24 pm by WinterHold.)
(December 18, 2019 at 9:56 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(July 17, 2010 at 2:29 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Turkey is usually held up as the standard secular/muslim state, seems to be a lot better than most of the others but I stand to be corrected.
It does have a better human rights record than most other nations in the area, but the Middle East is one of the biggest hellholes on Earth now, so that isn't saying much. Especially given that Turkey, well, they not only haven't come to terms with the Armenian Genocide, but they've passed laws that mean you can go to jail for years for acknowledging it happened. Admittedly, the law wasn't commonly enforced (although one Nobel laureate was prosecuted) and it's kind of in limbo, and eve when it was prosecuted, I can't find any cases where the defendants were sentenced to proper jail time (the most I've found was 1 year suspended), but the fact that this is even a possibility is a big black mark against Turkey.
The problem is that the countries accusing Turkey of the genocide did commit massive genocides themselves. Which created a tidal-lock; AKA a "Tu quoque argument".
In slang, one would say: "You butchered a whole race of native Americans then threw an atomic bomb on Japan then butchered thousands in Vietnam then spread your crimes to Iraq..and after that you dare to accuse me with genocide?".
Afterwards, Turkey gave Syrian civilians haven when Americans and the west and Russia gave them gangs, accompanied by unlimited support to Assad.
The only "messed up" thing here is the flaming of sectarian wars in the Middle East to gain prophet, supporting mass genocides in the region too.
(December 19, 2019 at 9:23 am)LastPoet Wrote: Holy necropost Batman! This one with almost 10 years rotting, it's only bones
It relates to today though; doesn't it?
Thank God for the written word that remind people with what they said once.
Even 1000 years are not enough to bury false beliefs.
