RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quranic manuscripts from 1400 years
December 22, 2019 at 9:07 pm
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2019 at 9:16 pm by WinterHold.)
(December 22, 2019 at 6:51 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: And, absolutely none of that is evidence of the claim that the Quran is the direct word of a god. You cannot prove the truth of a book using the book. That is circular reasoning. You’re more like MK than you think.
The Quran is not a magic book neither it is a book of spells. Without observing in what the universe gives or what life teaches with experience, the book is obsolete.
In other words; if you wanted evidence for the existence of God observe the stars and observe the universe; and read the Quran.
(December 22, 2019 at 6:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(December 22, 2019 at 5:53 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: the Quran never needs another book with it; it's the direct preserved word of God.
Unevidenced assertion.
No; it needs constant observation of the universe.
(December 22, 2019 at 7:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'm not at all convinced that the unaltered text of a book for 1400 years proves anything beyond very meticulous and unimaginative scribes.
Boru
But the book was revealed in Arabia where:
1-The Mongols burnt libraries
2-The Crusaders invaded
3-Muslims fought together
4-wars and invasions are still going to this day
I'll be surprised if a single book survived all that turmoil.
(December 22, 2019 at 8:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(December 22, 2019 at 6:38 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: They have the right to disagree with me, but they should never threaten my life -or the life of others- because of this disagreement.
You might be missing the whole point of organized religion.
Boru
The Quran was tolerant to rejection of its message; many verses in it prohibited Muslims from the killing of peaceful non-Muslims