(December 23, 2019 at 4:08 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:(December 23, 2019 at 3:01 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: But you will be met by the flagrant verses in the bible, proving to you that the book -the bible- is the word of man, not God.
While the Quran is a total different cup of tea regarding explicit, flagrant language: it simply has no such language.
Now, wait a minute. A post ago, you conceded that the book, by itself, cannot also be the evidence the book is true, because that’s circular. You said the additional evidence is “look at the universe”. Well, anyone with a sufficient lack of scientific understanding can look at the universe, and think, “therefore god”, but the universe doesn’t tell you which god. So, now we’re back to books, and trying to use Quran to prove Quran. I don’t care how lovely its artistry is, you’re still begging the question.
That's why you must accompany the reading of the Quran with the observing of the universe, just like I stated in my previous post:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-60183-p...pid1949053
Quote:AtlasS33 said:
The Quran is not a magic book neither it is a book of spells. Without observing in what the universe gives or what life teaches with experience, the book is obsolete.
In other words; if you wanted evidence for the existence of God observe the stars and observe the universe; and read the Quran.
Ignore the artistry; the book is not a "magic book" or "the new Mona Lisa painting", rather it's the content it holds which provides a very logical explanation for the existence of God.
