RE: Politics
January 20, 2020 at 5:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2020 at 5:51 pm by WinterHold.)
(January 20, 2020 at 7:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(January 19, 2020 at 9:28 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Indeed. It's my right. Secularism cracks badly when it's executed without a moral system; it showed its flaws with WW1 and WW2 and the invention of atomic bombs.
You realize that it is secularism - and secularism only - that protects your religious freedom, right?
Boru
Protecting religious freedom is a sentence specified in the Quran:
Quote:https://quran.com/2/256?translations=
Sahih International
(256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
So it's very wrong to claim that secularism is the only way to protect religious freedom.
People did have religious freedom outside of imperialist Europe in the Islamic lands the past. And I still insist that modern secular nations are abusing religious freedoms via proxy, what do you call the secular urge to support foreign dictators who demolish religious rights?
It's very sad and confusing to see free societies supporting the dictators of places like the Middle East and Africa. It's also a very severe crime and contradictory to what these societies claim.
That Brian, is where Secular law breaks.
(January 20, 2020 at 9:43 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: OFC he doesn't know that. All he knows about secularism is what the ayatollah told him.
No. The guns though and torture tools the Ayatollah use are very western and secular.
(January 20, 2020 at 10:16 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Secularism itself is a moral product. The topline summary of centuries of moral philosophy regarding imposition, freedom, and good governance. The underlying contention being that a theocracy, de jure or de facto, cannot fail to produce misery in some segment of it's population. This contention is well supported by the history of theocratic governance - but also made plain in the examples of other fascist systems - like the Nazi's and Soviet's. Cults of State.
"Cracks", in secularism...Atlas, would be instances in which a population did not realize they were privileging the dominant theocratic compulsions, and then used their presumed secularism as a shield or even a weapon to advocate for that continued privilege. That happens.
No. Cracks is where the secular nations show their claws.
That usually happens when their foreign policy fails. They turn "nuclear" if you know what I mean.
