Real Men

[Shell B]

So a "real man" isn't an asshole... and that helps to a definition.

I didn't say that. Every man is a real man.

I don't think a "real man" has to be a hero either.

Agreed.

Back to the cowards in foxholes; cowards firefighters or military don't do their job and that makes them bad at their job. If part of your job is to do something most consider heroic (ie. risking your life for others) is doing something heroic as part of your job. All I'm saying (and I think we're not that far off from each other) is that doing those heroic things can make you heroic, if you do them heroically. Doing those heroic things to get attention or pick the victim's pocket(or any other list of non-heroic reasoning) doesn't make the individual a hero. That to me means that being a hero isn't about what you do, but how and why you do it. If the last sentence is true, then simply being a firefighter, or military, etc. doesn't make you a hero of itself.

I honestly don't feel like intention has much to do with it.