RE: Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive?
February 9, 2020 at 2:46 am
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2020 at 3:25 am by Fake Messiah.)
(February 8, 2020 at 4:21 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: Now there's a statement I find dubious. As doubtful as another Jesse Smolett claim about harassment. But I'm willing to look at the evidence. Just not now.
Here's another answer to your Fatima post
(February 8, 2020 at 4:21 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: Even if what you say is true how does the state or the Church or anyone else get tens of thousands of people, Christians and non-Christians, to see what they saw about the sun? This is well documented. Their testimony has been written down. Even Fake and the other guy would have to accept that is evidence.
No, I do not believe in the "miracle" of the Sun, just like majority of the people who were present at the so called miracle of the Sun didn't see anything and remained unconvinced.
And considering how Christians react to things, the whole "miracle" of the Sun was probably like this bathroom door: Christians see miracles, they see Mary and Jesus and a holy place they need make a pilgrimage; while sober people just see a bathroom door
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I would also be more convinced if God or Mary performed a miracle of stopping the holocaust and many other tragedies instead of monkeying around light effects in the sky.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"