Hell is justified.

[Chad32]

We're also rational being with constraints, but most of us don't derive pleasure from torture and killing. In fact we don't generally kill at all, if we can help it. Except for that low percent of the population that are psychopaths. Now if your god is so powerful, and so knowledgeable, he should be able to figure out solutions that don't involve killing people, but he chooses to do it. He declared that everyone deserves death since the day they're born. So he's a psychopath who doesn't understand mercy, or justice. When you're only merciful to those who worship you, that's not real mercy. Even Hitler could show that kind of mercy.

Pleasure is not among the constraints that God acts upon; actually the Quran states explicitly that God "didn't create the universe to play":

Sura 44, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 38 )   And We did not create the heavens and earth and that between them in play.
( 39 )   We did not create them except in truth, but most of them do not know.

So "pleasure" is a feature incompatible to the God I believe in.

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One cannot be both merciful and just.  Justice negates mercy.

Boru

Yes they can in my opinion.

So he doesn't know what fun is, but we want to be in heaven with him? The carrot's really not looking so crisp and fresh. Then again, if he's offering up 72 virgins to people, he must at least understand the concept of pleasure. I guess he just doesn't partake, because he's too busy torturing people he doesn't like. And some people he does like, if we take Job as an example.

You can show mercy sometimes, and justice other times, but you can't be 100% both at the same time, at all times. And when most people describe how great their god is, they usually mean 110% all the way, with no room for error.