RE: A.S.K. your way to proof.
March 21, 2020 at 3:49 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2020 at 4:23 pm by Bucky Ball.)
Drippy has never explained why it is we should be doing A/S/K to his deity.
Humanity has cooked up thousands of gods.
If you're going to A/S/K Drippy's god, you're going to have do all of the known gods.
Drippy's god has no priority here, over all the others. We are non-believers.
We do not accept his assumptions. He has presented no reason to toss out all the other gods, and zero in on his.
He has no case to be made for his god alone. Classic case of Special Pleading his god.
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Not only was Yahweh NOT El Elyon, he was (in the ancient Near East) one of the sons of El Elyon. He had a consort/wife, and the Hebrews believed in many gods.
Even the Bible says there was a higher god than Yahweh, and the Bible says there are other gods.
"There is none like God, O Jeshurun (i.e., Israel)
who rides through the heavens to your help ...
he subdues the ancient gods, shatters the forces of old ...
so Israel lives in safety, untroubled is Jacob's abode ...
Your enemies shall come fawning to you,
and you shall tread on their backs.
— Deuteronomy 33:26–29
The verse "Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods?" (Exodus 15:11) is even more explicit about other gods existing alongside Yahweh.
https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.pre...-1.6315810
https://www.ancient.eu/Yahweh/
In Deuteronomy 32:8-9, it says the "most high" (not Yahweh) portioned out the peoples of the Earth to the gods, and to Yahweh, ... his portion was israel.
Yahweh was a well known god in Canaanite religions.
Humanity has cooked up thousands of gods.
If you're going to A/S/K Drippy's god, you're going to have do all of the known gods.
Drippy's god has no priority here, over all the others. We are non-believers.
We do not accept his assumptions. He has presented no reason to toss out all the other gods, and zero in on his.
He has no case to be made for his god alone. Classic case of Special Pleading his god.
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(March 19, 2020 at 2:44 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Unfortunately for you, you have once again demonstrated your YouTube education in religious studies and the Bible, and your total and utter ignorance of the same.
Yahweh (YWHW, known as the tetragramaton) https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&s...bkZdcW6W-8
is the Hebrew abbreviation for Yahweh ... God. In Christian theology, Yahweh is God the FATHER. Jesus is the "word" and God the Son.
Jehovah was God the FATHER. Jehovah is NEVER Jesus, in any religion.
"Jehovah (/dʒɪˈhoʊvə/) is a Latinization of the Hebrew יְהֹוָה, one vocalization of the Tetragrammaton יהוה (YHWH), the proper name of the God of Israel in the Hebrew Bible and one of the seven names of God in Judaism."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah
Jesus is NOT and never has been named "Jehovah".
First Grade Sunday School.
Yahweh is the FATHER of Jesus. Yahweh is not and never was Jesus. Yahweh is the god referred to many times when Jesus speaks of the Father.
"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth" (John 1:14).
But thanks for your utterly ignorant reply. ... and this is the fool who says he's here to "clarify" after 16 years of study, .... and yet somehow doesn't know the most basic things that any freshman Bible student knows. He is totally and completely ignorant of the very field he pretends to speak about, (because he is self-taught, and suffering from Dunning-Krueger).
The interesting thing about the introduction to the Gospel of John, is that it incorporates almost word for word, the Gnostic concepts that Philo (a Jew) was writing about, earlier than John was written in the First Century. John stole the Gnostic concepts from Philo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo, and a generational (later) development from the synoptics. The Gnostic influence of the new sect, that eventually was called "Christianity", is very plain to see. The entire "word" introduction is pure Gnosticism : "light from light" etc. It's also a "theological" development. In Mark, Jesus is raised up (to divine status), in Luke and Matthew, (and Paul) Jesus gives up his divine status to become incarnate, then takes it back after going back to heaven. In John, (true to the Gnostic idea) he was divine, remained divine but had a dual nature while on Earth, then went back to having only divine status.
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Not only was Yahweh NOT El Elyon, he was (in the ancient Near East) one of the sons of El Elyon. He had a consort/wife, and the Hebrews believed in many gods.
Even the Bible says there was a higher god than Yahweh, and the Bible says there are other gods.
"There is none like God, O Jeshurun (i.e., Israel)
who rides through the heavens to your help ...
he subdues the ancient gods, shatters the forces of old ...
so Israel lives in safety, untroubled is Jacob's abode ...
Your enemies shall come fawning to you,
and you shall tread on their backs.
— Deuteronomy 33:26–29
The verse "Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods?" (Exodus 15:11) is even more explicit about other gods existing alongside Yahweh.
https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.pre...-1.6315810
https://www.ancient.eu/Yahweh/
In Deuteronomy 32:8-9, it says the "most high" (not Yahweh) portioned out the peoples of the Earth to the gods, and to Yahweh, ... his portion was israel.
Yahweh was a well known god in Canaanite religions.
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