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Yep! Another query for the xtians.

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Yep! Another query for the xtians.
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RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians.
October 24, 2011 at 7:06 am
It isn't the uncaused causer thing which makes God unable to give free will, it is omniscience. The universe must be deterministic in order to require an "unmoved mover"; therefore, God, knowing everything, must be able to see the inevitable conclusion of any set of starting conditions. Since he must have known this when choosing his starting conditions, he effectively decided what path humanity would take when he created the world, which I would argue does not constitute free will.
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Yep! Another query for the xtians.

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Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by IATIA - October 23, 2011 at 10:59 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by fr0d0 - October 24, 2011 at 5:53 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 5:58 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by edk - October 24, 2011 at 7:06 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by fr0d0 - October 24, 2011 at 7:35 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by edk - October 24, 2011 at 7:40 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 7:39 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by fr0d0 - October 24, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 10:36 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by Godschild - October 25, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by chatpilot - October 25, 2011 at 1:58 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by edk - October 25, 2011 at 7:17 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by chatpilot - October 25, 2011 at 8:40 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by fr0d0 - October 25, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by IATIA - October 25, 2011 at 8:04 am
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 12:13 pm
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by fr0d0 - October 25, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RE: Yep! Another query for the xtians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 12:19 pm

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