(April 17, 2020 at 2:52 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(April 17, 2020 at 2:39 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: I did say that sober minded people see that Muhammad was a conman and christian apologists believe in wizards and fairies, so they are not sober minded. You don't have to go further than Quran to see that Muhammad was a conman because Quran is full of lies: like when it claims there are three types of spiritual beings angels, demons and jinns. Or Surah Al Jinn chapter 27 where Muhammad describes how he came upon a crowd of Jinns - now to any sober minded person that is a blatant lie and person who claims it (Muhammad) is a liar and a conman for making people believe this.
Second, no serious historian of religions will share the "sober minded people"'s view of Muhammad as a conman. This is just moronic, every bit in his biography tells the exact opposite. He received nothing but humiliation, opposition and death threats for thirteen years in Mecca. This is not a conman's work.
I already told you, you have no serious natural theory to explain how his revelations came about. You will either deny the Qur'an being his work altogether - that is, being posthumously composed, or try to fit his revelations to some medical case. And both these are very very clumsy explanations.
So exactly like John Smith before moving to Salt Lake City then...

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