Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?

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Discussing with a terrorist is beyond me:

Klorophil is a terrorism enthusiast, he is the same person as Mysticknight, and moreover he creates sock accounts to bombard this place with posts like this:

What the fuck is your problem with me, kid? 

So.. Muhammad al-Bukhari, the Persian islamic scholar who reported the hadith, is a terrorist too ? And the billion sunni Muslims who accept the hadiths... terrorists ?

I have a simple challenge you. You will either answer, so I can start believing that you actually read something , anything about Islam, or call me a terrorist once again, in which case I might question your mental sanity.

The challenge goes like this : a random guy comes to you and wants to join Islam. What is he supposed to do, precisely, and according to which sources-besides the hadiths, of course?

As I already explained here, the death penalty for apostasy does exist, theoretically, for every person leaving religion, but in practice, it's much, much, more complicated than randomly murdering people, here are the details:

1) To actually label someone, explicitly, an apostate, can only come from an Islamic court of law, not from a friend, a family member, a random guy in the internet, nobody.

2) The most common definition of apostasy is to reject the faith with the intent of causing political turmoil.

3) Spying on someone just to know if he left his religion is explicitly condemned in Islam. Only people who willingly and publicly announce their rejection of faith can face the apostasy charge.

4) Applying the penalty is always delayed for months, or even years in order to understand the apostate's motivations for declaring his rejection of faith. In our era, and with the advent of the Internet and the never ending stream of false information, stereotypes about Islam, scholars advocate for an indefinite delay period, that is, to never apply the death penalty. Because people now simply don't know what Islam is, to start with, in order for them to actually reject it.

You yourself are a perfect example of that, you clearly don't know how to pray -three times a day? wrong number, pal, that's not what two billion Muslims do- nor give Zakat, nor go on a pilgrimage, because you excused yourself from taking the hadiths.... and for what possible reason.. I might ask?

Islamic scholars take the hadiths because they have a reliable chain of narrators going all the way back to Muhammad, which is the exact same way we have a reliable Qur'an nowadays, everything we know about Islam is basically an audio stream coming through reliable channels.

Every Mushaf' today comes through one of the seven popular Qira'at, let's pick one, for clarity's sake;



The writing on top of the central design reads ; Warsh' an Naafi' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsh_%27an_Naafi%27). In case you don't know, both Warsh' and Naafi' are actual people who mastered reciting the Qur'an and conveyed it to their students. And these are only two names from the whole lengthy chain of known scholars who recited the whole Qur'an all the way back to Muhammad's era.

Hadiths work the exact same way. If you're not okay with the hadiths, then you're not okay with the Qur'an. Case closed. End of story.