(April 20, 2020 at 8:42 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I have a lost source precisely nowhere, and I'm talking about no reliability at all. You... are my source.
You indicated that the volume of work rejected was proof of the reliability of magic book. You've since demonstrated that you don't believe that this is proof of reliability in the case of me rejecting half of anything you have to say, or the christians rejecting their own apocrypha.
This is a fairly simple litmus test for the sorts of claims that you and others like you enjoy making. You should expect to hear it alot, and if you feel compelled to say something that you know wont pass this test...no matter how much you believe it, you should probably keep it to yourself.
If, ofc, you intend to offer cogent arguments for your faith.
I am not providing formal syllogisms here for my faith, either. I am inviting you to read more about subjects you don't know well, and as a result, you can't see their worth.
If I am your only source about Islam, then this is a problem already. I might still convey things wrongly despite my best efforts, especially related to why we trust our oriental heritage. Besides, this subject is not about arguments for the Islamic faith.
(April 20, 2020 at 8:42 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Found another one. You don't believe in the rule of attention devoted, either. Should have kept it to yourself.
No, you didn't find any. We have sayings today of Muhammad about minutious details of his life, thus we invoke *the rule of attention*. We don't have them in the case of Jesus, no rule invoked. You claimed followers copy batshit things differently, I answered followers take their idol seriously, plus they master their language well enough not to miss short idioms.. so don't strawman, please.
(April 20, 2020 at 8:42 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: About as much as you do, maybe a bit more...since you can't find any books about it.
I don't mind confessing that islam and magic book bore me to tears. It's a fairly straightforward post axial fairy tale. Not nearly as creative or masterful as most of it's competition, and nowhere near as interesting as new religious movements.
Translations of the Qur'an might look boring - translations. You either should just learn Arabic to check whether the original is boring, or hear experts judgement about it. Creative and masterful? A book of guidance is about... guidance, not about satisfying one's imagination.
(April 20, 2020 at 8:42 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What political motivation does anyone have for enduring death threats for years? Maybe you should ask the christians. Why would they go to such extreme measures to fabricate a book about a god-man that never existed?
It's a hard one to rule out an historical Jesus... and no book is fabricated, they're just books of disciples of Jesus, by the christians own admission. They go to extreme measure merely to justify their link to Jesus. Nobody today, even christians, thinks that any random quote from the bible is from Jesus' mouth.
