RE: Atheist Dogma
April 21, 2020 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2020 at 11:38 am by Prof.Lunaphiles.)
(April 21, 2020 at 7:01 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: You are saying that something needs to have a thorough grasp of the god concept before it can weigh it up and either reject or accept it.That is my claim. A person cannot be an atheist, if they do not understand what theism and atheism are. If the person is unaware of the concepts, then they are secular.
(April 21, 2020 at 7:01 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: But that isn't right its binary either people believe or they don't, if they haven't heard the concept they don't believe by default so atheist. Of course there are some of us who have been exposed to the concept and reject it. find it childish myself.I think it has to do with the materialism/idealism duality. I do not believe people incarnate beliefs by some magical/inexplicable process. I believe that the only way people can believe in something is by the introduction of information describing the entity, or experience of the entity.
So if you take atheism as the default then anything that doesn't have a positive belief is atheist.
The other view, that people magically/inexplicably behold a belief, is what Christians would like for belief in god to be; but we know they have to be indoctrinated, because there is no supernatural dimension to do the magic trick of making people believe.
Furthermore, theism is an ontology suggesting that a supernatural dimension creates reality. Ontologies cannot be devised/designated in opposition to a defined ontology. Ontologies are essentially a list of all that exists.