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Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:09 pm
The absolute nature of the claims made by scientific fundamentalists seem to depend upon current technology and the accumulation of observation, experience, and opinion formed by those deemed worthy of forming such an opinion. As far as I’m aware, there are no experts who claim to be omniscient, wherefore we must always consider that there may be variables uncontrolled for and information left out.
Atheists, how are you sure that any of the science is the truth? How can you tell? When we have no choice but to accept given after given to try to understand what we’re observing, how can we ever know anything for sure? When “scientific facts” often don’t live up to their predictions, how can we trust? There are many claims about the truth of reality, and many people who pose themselves as experts capable of making such claims. As for me, however, I trust that I perceive. I trust that I observe and form opinion. Beyond that, I humbly admit that I am ignorant with regard to the truth.
How are you so confident?
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:13 pm
When "scientific facts" don't live up to predictions, they aren't facts. They're wrong. Back to the drawing board. When theories do allow us to make predictions that then come to pass and are repeatable, you can trust that. Kind of easy to differentiate, really.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:17 pm
After seeing the OP's other threads, I'm calling it right now: spammer and troll.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:19 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2014 at 12:21 pm by Simon Moon.)
Who are these 'scientific fundamentalists' you speak of.
All scientists understand that conclusions that come from the scientific method are provisional, not absolute.
Science is not a thing, it is a method for observing the natural universe. There is no 'truth' in science, only what fits the preponderance of evidence.
When scientific facts don't live up to predictions, they were not facts, and whatever theory they were meant to support is modified with the new information taken into consideration.
How can we trust science? Because it works. Why are we do confident in the scientific method? To repeat, because it works.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:21 pm
I'm withholding judgment until he's done dumping his years worth of Microsoft Word documents to see if he actually engages in conversation. I think you're right though.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:24 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2014 at 12:25 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(September 11, 2014 at 12:09 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: The absolute nature of the claims made by scientific fundamentalists seem to depend upon current technology and the accumulation of observation, experience, and opinion formed by those deemed worthy of forming such an opinion. As far as I’m aware, there are no experts who claim to be omniscient, wherefore we must always consider that there may be variables uncontrolled for and information left out.
Atheists, how are you sure that any of the science is the truth? How can you tell? When we have no choice but to accept given after given to try to understand what we’re observing, how can we ever know anything for sure? When “scientific facts” often don’t live up to their predictions, how can we trust? There are many claims about the truth of reality, and many people who pose themselves as experts capable of making such claims. As for me, however, I trust that I perceive. I trust that I observe and form opinion. Beyond that, I humbly admit that I am ignorant with regard to the truth.
How are you so confident?
Replace "scientific" with "factual", and you have your answer, but you will be unlikely to grasp the subtlety, nor would you likely refrain from obfuscation.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:27 pm
(September 11, 2014 at 12:09 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: The absolute nature of the claims made by scientific fundamentalists seem to depend upon current technology and the accumulation of observation, experience, and opinion formed by those deemed worthy of forming such an opinion. As far as I’m aware, there are no experts who claim to be omniscient, wherefore we must always consider that there may be variables uncontrolled for and information left out.
Atheists, how are you sure that any of the science is the truth? How can you tell? When we have no choice but to accept given after given to try to understand what we’re observing, how can we ever know anything for sure? When “scientific facts” often don’t live up to their predictions, how can we trust? There are many claims about the truth of reality, and many people who pose themselves as experts capable of making such claims. As for me, however, I trust that I perceive. I trust that I observe and form opinion. Beyond that, I humbly admit that I am ignorant with regard to the truth.
How are you so confident?
Do you have the slightest idea of what science is? Let me wiki that for you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
Stop making an embarassment of yourself, please.
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:29 pm
(September 11, 2014 at 12:09 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: The absolute nature of the claims made by scientific fundamentalists seem to depend upon current technology and the accumulation of observation, experience, and opinion formed by those deemed worthy of forming such an opinion. As far as I’m aware, there are no experts who claim to be omniscient, wherefore we must always consider that there may be variables uncontrolled for and information left out.
Atheists, how are you sure that any of the science is the truth? How can you tell? When we have no choice but to accept given after given to try to understand what we’re observing, how can we ever know anything for sure? When “scientific facts” often don’t live up to their predictions, how can we trust? There are many claims about the truth of reality, and many people who pose themselves as experts capable of making such claims. As for me, however, I trust that I perceive. I trust that I observe and form opinion. Beyond that, I humbly admit that I am ignorant with regard to the truth.
How are you so confident?
Because 1+1=2
Because cars drive
Because planes fly
Because computers compute
Because we can change the morphology and genetics of animals and plants by manipulating their genes, thus proving evolution.
Do you get what I'm saying?
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:31 pm
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RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
September 11, 2014 at 12:33 pm
I'm just curiuous as to what is our atheist 'dogma'?
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