RE: A.S.K. your way to proof.
April 29, 2020 at 4:55 pm
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2020 at 6:48 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:sorry sport i studied this guy. he was mockingly a deist because he did not have the balls to wear the social stigma that came with being labeled an atheist back then. one could be ban from shops public services like police protection and even having been accused of dark magic. deism was the safest thing this guy could align himself with ans still carry out his attacks on god and the church as his 'nod to god' came in the way of a naturalism where he assigned the title to fit the engine that ran the natural world. IE god to him was not a deity but more of a source of power or energy. Plus on his death bed he refused God stating he at this point would not want to make any more enemies.None of this proves he didn't believe in god and if that quote is to be believed or taken literally that it actually undermines your point so i question your supposed study of him .As for the quote it's questionable
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/08/13/no-enemies/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire#Death_and_burial
https://www.thoughtco.com/biography-of-voltaire-4691229
Quote:being apposed to God does. most of you are not atheist by definition either you all share more with voltare than you will ever admit in that you hate God, not that you do not believe in him. people who do not believe do not waist their time arguing for years over their same points. this is hatred that fuels this passion.
Whatever you want to call voltare he is the father of the movement now known as atheism.
Voltaire never said he was opposed to god and hell even if he did that would make him theist not an atheist .Nope because i would first have to accept it exists which Voltaire clearly did .People who do not believe do when faced with a world that does and they repeat it because the point is clearly not getting through and this neither requires hate and only a passion for reason . And you still have not proven Voltaire was an atheist in fact you seem hell bent on showing the opposite and there is no atheist movement .
Quote:obb. that is not the proper 1763 quote.Yup him mocking organized religion this neither refutes my point or shows his atheism .I
The following is the proper quote:
It does not require great art, or magnificently trained eloquence, to prove that Christians should tolerate each other. I, however, am going further: I say that we should regard all men as our brothers. What? The Turk my brother? The Chinaman my brother? The Jew? The Siam? Yes, without doubt; are we not all children of the same father and creatures of the same God?
But these people despise us; they treat us as idolaters! Very well! I will tell them that they are grievously wrong. It seems to me that I would at least astonish the proud, dogmatic Islam imam or Buddhist priest, if I spoke to them as follows:
"This little globe, which is but a point, rolls through space, as do many other globes; we are lost in the immensity of the universe. Man, only five feet high, is assuredly only a small thing in creation. One of these imperceptible beings says to another one of his neighbors, in Arabia or South Africa: 'Listen to me, because God of all these worlds has enlightened me: there are nine hundred million little ants like us on the earth, but my ant-hole is the only one dear to God; all the other are cast off by Him for eternity; mine alone will be happy, and all the others will be eternally damned."
They would then interrupt me, and ask which fool blabbed all this nonsense. I would be obliged to answer, "You, yourselves." I would then endeavor to calm them, which would be very difficult.
The dude is making fun of Buddhist and Muslims. As everything i just quoted is his version of a over simplifies summary of what he thinks they believe, and when he serves it to them in this way, he mocks their preceived response.
This is what you 'good people' do all the time.
Quote:I do not need a commentator to think for me. i have spent time in the study of voltare which is why i can run through you guys like water through single ply toilet paper. I understand your foundations even if you do not.No your dunning kruger guides you (you can't even spell his name right )
Quote:DisputedYes disputed
here sport.. this is a map from town town genva to the actual house:
here is the recorded history of the house:
here is a link to the bible society so you can scheduled a tour and buy a bible at their gift shop.
doesn't seem disputed to me, unless you mean to say it is shut down at this moment due to covid-19
1.Your first link doesn't back up your point all it confirms the house exists a claim i never denied
2. Your second one actually has a serious issue as it never actually says the Geneva Bible Society ever used the building though it does support the idea it was temporarily used as a Bibe storage by the Evangelical Society of Geneva but only for a few months as one of the links on wikipedia shows .
3.The third is kind of bizarre as it contradicts the second and again it nowhere shows their housed in the museum
4. Oh and speaking of bad links
https://www.scribd.com/document/33127426...le-society
Umm this contradicts your statement did you just read the first paragraph?
Overall it doesn't really matter if Christians get some petty kick out of his so be it .Though i never find myself happy when a church is converted into a pub .Guess i'm not that petty .
Quote:that looks like a sore butt lie.A butthurt lie by someone who has every reason to promote it ?
Quote:You got turn by turn direction from google maps from down town to the house, you got the history of the house from wiki and you got the website to where you can tour the house and visit the bible center headquarters and even buy a bible.Accept non of this actually backs your point and in fact contradicts it
Quote:All you link proves is if you wish to bury you head in the sand the internet will allow you to borrow a shovelIronically one could argue the opposite
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