RE: A.S.K. your way to proof.
April 30, 2020 at 12:56 pm
(This post was last modified: April 30, 2020 at 12:59 pm by Drich.)
(April 30, 2020 at 12:02 am)Jehanne Wrote:(April 29, 2020 at 12:07 pm)Drich Wrote: "the word being the very word of John 1:1/Jesus"
To give some meaning to this thread, let's focus on this one:
Quote:The Seminar treats the canonical gospels as historical sources that represent Jesus' actual words and deeds as well as elaborations of the early Christian community and of the gospel authors. The Fellows placed the burden of proof on those who advocate any passage's historicity. Unconcerned with canonical boundaries, they asserted that the Gospel of Thomas may have more authentic material than the Gospel of John.[8]
Wikipedia -- The Jesus Seminar
Do you agree with the above conclusion? If not, why not?
no. as the gospel of Thomas only first discovered in 1945 as a letter from one church official to another and in marp only mainly mentioning some passages in passing. Then a first century document was found containing sayings of Jesus 1/2 of which were recorded in the NT the other 1/2 were Gnostic in origin as this was a Gnostic text with no contextual back ground or framing. the oldest "complete" copy (remember sayings only which would indicate the gospel itself is incomplete as it does not frame out the importance of who is speaking/it relys on other works that would not have existed) In short the gospel is bunk because the oldest copy was written after the rest of the bible was written and compiled into a singular book. then sometime later (100 year or so) the gospel of thomas supposedly hits the scene but is never used or spoken of till 1945?!?!
is you stuped?
Do you know the other gospels have been known and taught from since the 2nd century and there are many thousands of copies that all share the same consistent narrative.
but here comes the gospel of Thomas and it's 1 copy found in 1945 which again relys on the rest of the bible which supposedly has not been written to identify and frame out who Jesus is and why these 114 quotes were important.
no thanks/pass.
(April 30, 2020 at 12:53 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Did Voltaire say the words 'I do not believe God is real'?yes by works thought and deed.
that is all that is needed. we just a man by his fruit. his fruits are his works thoughts and deeds.