(October 25, 2011 at 7:17 am)edk141 Wrote: The argument, as I understand it, is as follows:Cool.
1. Christians argue that God must exist, because there must exist an "unmoved mover".
2. For an "unmoved mover" to be required, the universe must be deterministic, otherwise stuff would be liable to happen at random.
3. Therefore, the starting conditions of the universe predetermine every choice ever made by anyone.
4. God sets the starting conditions.
5. Ergo, your choices were made by God before they were made by you.
6. Is this free will?
Yes. As in: you are a free agent to make the choice that your will dictates. You are predisposed to be drawn to God.