(July 15, 2020 at 9:15 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Ethics and morals are man made constructs, a byproduct of intelligent consciousness. Not place in nature for that.
I disagree! Look at apes, among other intelligent social animals. They may not argue ethics and morals in the same way we do, but they have a sense of what's right and wrong. I think it's an important part of any social species - do good by someone, and they do good by you. Be a "good" animal, be accepted by the pack/tribe/clan, live to see another day.
Since we, mankind, are nature, and it is in our nature to have ethics and morals, are they not natural occurences?