(July 15, 2020 at 10:02 pm)Gnomey Wrote:(July 15, 2020 at 9:15 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Ethics and morals are man made constructs, a byproduct of intelligent consciousness. Not place in nature for that.
I disagree! Look at apes, among other intelligent social animals. They may not argue ethics and morals in the same way we do, but they have a sense of what's right and wrong. I think it's an important part of any social species - do good by someone, and they do good by you. Be a "good" animal, be accepted by the pack/tribe/clan, live to see another day.
Since we, mankind, are nature, and it is in our nature to have ethics and morals, are they not natural occurences?
From the mankind perspective and your "do good by someone" statement, do you believe that apes only do good?
This becomes a slippery slope and often depends on perspective.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.