Nerd alert! -more spooky Quantum stuff

[Porcupine]

The problems come when people try to make it all mystical.

The problem is Chopra and similar goons!

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But we still don't understand the most fundamental reason why the waveform collapses when measured

Now I am going to say something that sounds wooy but isn't. It could be because observers alter reality because reality is ultimately mental.

That sounds like major woo. But it's not much of a step to say that it could be the case once we start from the premise that there's no reason to think that reality isn't mental as there's no evidence of anything non-mental.

Still, it is a bit of a leap to say that our minds have an impact on the mental nature of reality. As perhaps our minds don't affect other minds even through they're physical and ultimately connected to other physical things because all physical things are fundamentally connected and all physical things are fundamentally mental. But it's less of a leap than saying that our minds have an impact on the physical (as opposed to mental---as if there is actually any evidence of such an opposition) nature of reality. Now that would be wooy.

It's still not clear that there would have to be any meaningful connection between one mental/physical thing and another mental/physical thing. And, it's obvious that silly shit like telepathy doesn't exist. So if there are any connections it may be that they are so weak that they are basically nonexistent (but technically not fully 100% nonexistent) and undetectable. Or almost undetectable. Such as perhaps only detectable on the quantum level? The important thing is that to say that our, human, minds (directly) impact reality on the macro level, or in a way that actually affects our lives, is not just totally without basis but really is completely wooy. But to say that the observer has an affect on the quantum level is nowhere near the same thing as that woo.

To put it simply: To say that our minds can impact quantum mechanics is not wooy. (It's just without clear evidence but not totally implausible or without any basis (hence one theory suggesting that: the Copenhagen Interpretation)). Whereas, on the other hand, to say that we can harness the micro-level of quantum mechanics with our minds in order to meaningfully affect our lives at the non-quantum level, as Deepak Chopra and bullshit like The Secret, suggests---and "ask the universe" to "make our dreams come true" or any of that shit, or anything like it---that is 100% total wooy pseudoscientific bull.