RE: What is goodness?
July 17, 2020 at 4:07 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2020 at 4:13 am by Porcupine.)
(July 16, 2020 at 9:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That would be too restrictive to cover alot of our day to day experience, where we notice that the things we want are very capable of harming us, or of harming others.
Not necessarily. In the first case it could just be that a past desire violated a future desire and in the second case it could just be that we don't desire the same thing as the other person.
(July 16, 2020 at 9:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Here, again, though, this is the difference between subjectivist and objectivist systems. An objectivist does not deny that a person might want something. An objectivist can, however, deny that the wanted thing is good, or free of harm. This isn't strictly possible for a subjectivist, as the ground of moral value is subjective to a subjectivist.
One desire can be bad for another desire and this doesn't have to lead to all desires being equal and no desires being good or bad.
Why?
Because some desires are stronger than others. And, hence, some violations of desires are stronger than others.
(July 15, 2020 at 9:05 pm)brewer Wrote: eat
drink
sex
safety
After that it's a crap shoot based on a lot of variables.
My emphasis.
To quote what I said elsewhere when the user Brian37 said that "Life is a crap shoot.":
(July 16, 2020 at 11:55 am)ModusPonens1 Wrote: Very true indeed. Because it's (1) Fun, (2) Completely luck-based and (3) Usually an expensive waste of time at best and life destroying at worst.
*life-destroying.
"Zen … does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." - Alan Watts
