RE: Creationism
August 13, 2020 at 6:36 pm
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2020 at 6:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
There's no reason to take the god part off, there are superior versions of the argument from contingency and we could use those - but these are also flawed. Cosmological arguments can't get around the fallacies, they can only accept them and say that we're wrong about logic, somehow. Probably one of gods mysteries. 1 in 3 and 3 in 1 and that sort of thing.
It most definitely was what I was asked to explain, lol. At least toss me a few peanuts, I'm dancing for your amusement.
Now that we're agreed that aquinas intuited his conclusion, rather than arguing for it, and that non seqs are not valid arguments can we be done with this fawning horseshit over saint tom and your inability to see how the argument is invalid? You see it just fine. Grandizer-1, Tom-0.
It most definitely was what I was asked to explain, lol. At least toss me a few peanuts, I'm dancing for your amusement.
Quote:You can bring up theological objections to this, fine. But the arguments in and of themselves appear to be valid (at least I'm not seeing how the conclusion fails to follow from the premises in each of the arguments, when we're considering the arguments in fully fleshed out form of course). So can we concede that this particular counter you're using is a misunderstanding of Aquinas' view of God? Or do you want to keep arguing that I'm the one not getting you?
Now that we're agreed that aquinas intuited his conclusion, rather than arguing for it, and that non seqs are not valid arguments can we be done with this fawning horseshit over saint tom and your inability to see how the argument is invalid? You see it just fine. Grandizer-1, Tom-0.
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