(August 10, 2020 at 4:10 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(August 10, 2020 at 10:10 am)Eleven Wrote: The one fallible aspect of creationist thought is that all must have a creator.
Therefore, something must have created god.
But then theists decide via apologetic argumentation that special pleading is in order, thus stating that god always existed.
Asking "if everything has a creator, then what created God?" is a lot like asking "if people evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys?" The question shows that you don't understand the argument.
Granted, the straw man version is a lot more convenient.
The "god did it" is not very good an explanation.
It never says how it did it or where it got the stuff, just waggled its magic nose and everything just happened.
It literally just avoids explaining things and has no positive value.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.