RE: Creationism
August 18, 2020 at 9:56 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2020 at 9:56 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 18, 2020 at 9:39 am)Grandizer Wrote:(August 18, 2020 at 6:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Everything that exists must have a creator/cause/explanation. That creator/cause/explanation must be uncreated/uncaused/unexplained. This we understand to be a god. Scratch that third statement and see if you can spot another fallacy.
The fallacy is that this is a strawman. Learn to do the opposite of strawman please.
If we're talking Second Way (for example), ultimately you need something in which essence and existence are identical (or the First Cause) to cause (sustain) the existence of others (because they can't "attach" their own act of existence to their essence).
The first, second, and third way are all the same form of argument. A strawman is a misrepresentation of a position. I've not misrepresented cosmological arguments in general, or saint toms arguments specifically.
The issues with these arguments are known knowns - not a subject of academic debate.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
