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Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse
(September 11, 2020 at 4:22 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:
(September 11, 2020 at 2:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Your political grievances are running all over your appraisal of the case.  You'll have to argue anti-gun this and thats with anti-gun people...but I would strongly suggest taking some other route than claiming that the us was devolving into some mad max scenario.  That's not going to have the effect you intend.  

The prosecutors went with second degree murder because his actions fit the textbook definition.  They thought they could put him away without the added trouble of convincing a jury what was on zimmermans mind (which is a doa argument at this point, if it were ever credible - he's been mouthy, and has a past).  Was it premeditated?  Yes.  Could the prosecutors prove that in court, then?  No.

If they could have, would the jury have convicted him?  Probably not.  The case was lost before it ever went to trial.  On the other hand, that's a good thing.  Our system is supposed to be heavily tilted in favor of the defendant - and that's cold comfort in context, especially - but something worth holding on to.  Rather a hundred guilty men go free than a single innocent executed - and florida still does those.

What info do we have about the Zimmerman case that shows there was pre-meditation? I don't understand how you can call it pre-meditated.

His going on a hunting expedition is pretty persuasive, I think.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 1, 2020 at 1:27 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Brian37 - September 1, 2020 at 2:00 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 1, 2020 at 2:05 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 1, 2020 at 5:48 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 1, 2020 at 2:07 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 1, 2020 at 2:18 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rhizomorph13 - September 1, 2020 at 3:12 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 1, 2020 at 3:15 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rhizomorph13 - September 1, 2020 at 3:18 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 1, 2020 at 4:26 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 1, 2020 at 3:16 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Divinity - September 1, 2020 at 3:40 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 1, 2020 at 3:44 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 1, 2020 at 3:50 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Divinity - September 1, 2020 at 3:46 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 1, 2020 at 4:03 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 1, 2020 at 4:27 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by no one - September 1, 2020 at 5:03 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by ignoramus - September 1, 2020 at 5:27 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Fireball - September 1, 2020 at 7:40 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 1, 2020 at 7:45 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 1, 2020 at 7:55 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 1, 2020 at 8:48 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Brian37 - September 4, 2020 at 5:08 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 4, 2020 at 6:53 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 4, 2020 at 5:53 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 4, 2020 at 8:05 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by arewethereyet - September 4, 2020 at 10:01 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Architect Of Fate - September 4, 2020 at 10:15 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 4, 2020 at 8:58 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 6, 2020 at 10:35 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 7, 2020 at 12:53 am
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhousei - by onlinebiker - September 9, 2020 at 2:08 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 11, 2020 at 1:27 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Valkyrie - September 6, 2020 at 11:44 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 7, 2020 at 12:10 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 7, 2020 at 1:17 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 7, 2020 at 1:46 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 7, 2020 at 3:23 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by popeyespappy - September 7, 2020 at 11:13 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 7, 2020 at 11:14 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 7, 2020 at 12:07 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 7, 2020 at 1:16 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Architect Of Fate - September 9, 2020 at 11:48 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Angrboda - September 10, 2020 at 3:13 am
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Architect Of Fate - September 10, 2020 at 3:56 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Rev. Rye - September 9, 2020 at 2:44 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 9, 2020 at 3:52 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by arewethereyet - September 9, 2020 at 4:39 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 9, 2020 at 4:50 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 10, 2020 at 8:16 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 11, 2020 at 7:14 am
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Angrboda - September 11, 2020 at 1:58 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 11, 2020 at 4:25 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Sal - September 10, 2020 at 9:25 am
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2020 at 1:26 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2020 at 1:35 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 11, 2020 at 1:44 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2020 at 1:48 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Brian37 - September 11, 2020 at 1:52 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 11, 2020 at 2:06 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2020 at 1:55 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2020 at 5:50 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 11, 2020 at 5:58 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 11, 2020 at 6:19 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 11, 2020 at 6:40 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 12, 2020 at 2:22 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Architect Of Fate - September 11, 2020 at 7:14 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by god bother - September 11, 2020 at 6:15 pm
RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by onlinebiker - September 11, 2020 at 8:10 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 11, 2020 at 6:32 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by Irreligious Atheist - September 12, 2020 at 8:53 pm
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RE: Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse - by The Grand Nudger - September 12, 2020 at 9:49 pm
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