Kenosha Shooter Kyle Rittenhouse

[Irreligious Atheist]

Confronted Martin when he didn't have to? He also didn't have to not confront him. It's called freedom of movement. You are allowed to approach people and ask them questions. Zimmerman was not advised to do anything as far as I know.r Zimmerman or Rittenhouse committed murder though.

Freedom comes with consequences for exercising it . In this case it was an ass kicking because Zimmerman refused to mind his own business . Zimmerman was advised to back off . 

 You are assuming Zimmerman picked a fight when you can't really back that position up. Zimmerman was the one with his head bashed and bloodied, so it looks like Martin instigated the violence.

Irrelevant if you stalk people you get what coming 

He instigated the violence, and he died because of it.

He didn't like being followed or integrated and acted accordingly and was murdered 

 If you could prove Zimmerman started a fight, I'd change my position. 

He didn't need to he was wrong from the start 

I only care about the evidence. Trying to fill in the blanks by making claims that can't be backed up is not the right way to go about things in my opinion.

You opinion is already made your just inventing excuses and hair splitting to maintain it 

The same goes for Rittenhouse. If someone can show me exactly what he did that made it justifiable for someone to grab his gun and try to take it away, I'll change my position on that too. 

It's a fact he was intimidating with it as was already pointed out and no you won't you'll inventing excuses to maintain your current position .

I don't see any evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that either

You can't see with closed eyes

Zimmerman was not advised to back off, and even if he was, a 911 dispatcher has no authority to give commands, so that wouldn't even matter. Refusing to mind ones own business may have consequences, but legally you don't have to mind your own business, and we're speaking legally, so that doesn't matter either.

If you bash and bloody someone's head when you could have just gone home which he was right next to, then you get what's coming too. I feel bad for Trayvon but he made a dumb decision.

Zimmerman was morally wrong by following in your opinion, you mean, not legally. Legally wrong is all that matters when it comes to the law. The law doesn't care what you think is right or wrong. The law cares about what is legally acceptable.

I understand that Rittenhouse was seen as intimidating having a gun. You don't get to take someone's gun because they're intimidating. You can take it maybe if you have a justifiable reason to say he's about to go on a shooting spree, and I don't just mean a gut feeling, I mean a legit reason. You can try to grab it if he's pointing it at you and in the process of robbing you. You can grab it if he's pointing it at you and tells you to get into the position because he's about to execute you with it. Did he do any of those things? Not as far as I know. Acting like a touch guy and intimidating people is not enough to legally justify grabbing a gun out of his hands. They were wreckless and careless enough with their lives and committed suicide. They may as well have ran out in a freeway in front of a transport truck. They get the darwin award. Congratulations to them. Hopefully others will learn from their stupidity.