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Whitmer Accuses Trump
RE: Whitmer Accuses Trump
(October 11, 2020 at 3:01 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(October 11, 2020 at 2:02 pm)Aegon Wrote: People really don't understand the nuances of our collective psychology and the sort of impact the president's words have on his cult like followers. He didn't explicitly say "Kidnap the governor," but he very obviously encouraged the groups and militias protesting. He justified their logic. He said they were just.

Words matter.

Same reason Trump is personally responsible for the pandemic being as bad as it is. In public he routinely denied the science, encouraged folks not to wear masks, downplayed the severity of the virus, had unprecedented control over the CDC messaging, and more. To act like what he says doesn't have a massive impact is..  stupid,  to be frank.

You overlook one massive flaw in your logic.


....

When someone you hate tells you do do something -do you -

A. Readily comply and do as they say.

B. Tell them to go fuck themselves. ?


...

If Trump had been a big endorser of face masks - those on the left would be the ones saying that masks are a placebo.


.....

If you don't think so - you are truely a party loyalist.

I am most likely the most far-left member of this forum. Please believe me when I tell you I am not loyal to the neoliberals in the Democratic Party.

That being said - no, no I do not think that the left would say masks are a placebo if the president urged everyone to wear them. The anti-mask sentiment is born out of a juvenile conception of individual freedom unique to American conservatives. It is not up the left's alley. If you look at polling of Democrats and Republicans in this country in regards to believing the chief scientists, it is the Dems who accept science at a greater rate than Republicans. Liberals accept science in other areas as well, including climate change. For these reasons I do not believe Democrats would say masks don't work if Trump said to wear them.

This also has nothing to do with the point I was making originally.
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Whitmer Accuses Trump - by onlinebiker - October 9, 2020 at 8:39 am
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